Comments Thread For: Hearn Offers Charlo One-Fight Deal For Andrade May Unification

[Curt Henning]

The only thing that I can think of is that he's defining "star" and "superstar", as "popular fighter" and "star", going by that list of his.

i mean...yeah maybe....still...youd think a fighter making 15-20mil a fight would be a star in a universal sense

[yankees7448]

Those are the 4 very highest earning boxers of the last decade. That's some criteria you have to be on the list.

Its not some criteria. Those are the genuine stars.

[yankees7448]

The only thing that I can think of is that he's defining "star" and "superstar", as "popular fighter" and "star", going by that list of his.

I think star and superstar are interchangeable much in the same way moron is with about***intime or hypocrite is with Curt Henning. But if you really want to distinguish between a star and a superstar then in my opinion it would involve people whose popularity gives them reach beyond just boxing. For instance, Mike Tyson got his own video game, one man show on Broadway, and had an iconic cameo in the hit movie The Hangover. Mayweather Jr was on Dancing With the Stars, had a big cross sport fight with Conor McGregor, was part of a PPV with the WWE.

[jbpanama]

Not a true story. It keeps them further from Nelo or pvssy-g

Public Perception...Or be Ducked By the Bun...

[doom_specialist]

Its not some criteria. Those are the genuine stars.

Guess I'll agree to disagree.

[yankees7448]

Guess I'll agree to disagree.

Fair enough

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Boxrec also has Oleksandr Usyk rated higher than Tyson Fury at heavyweight when Usyk has only beaten Chazz Witherspoon so far. Not to completely discredit ratings but sometimes we have to take them with a grain of salt. I usually check more than one list just to be more thorough.

Usyk fought top caliber opponents at cruiserweight and Usyk keeps a lot of his points when he moves up in weight.

Fury has fought absolute nobodies this year and has taken a hit in the ratings as a result. As he should.

Boxrec shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt. They're the only unbiased ratings with zero human interference.

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Those are fair points. I will add, however, that rankings are subjective and ESPN has Andrade rated higher than both Derevyanchenko and Eubank Jr.

I wasn't aware of PBC not recognizing WBO titles; that sounds crazy to me because I always felt like becoming a unified champion was a big deal. Oh well, to each his own...

Boxrec removes all the bias and removes all the belts. Judges fighters solely on the quality of their opposition.

Charlo will likely fight a unification in the next year or two. PBC is gunning for the WBA title at 160. Eubank is already interim champion. Canelo will likely vacate, resulting in Eubank becoming world champion.

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Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Tommy Hearns 1 was before my time, however I imagine that Leonard and Hearns might have never fought each other if they were active and in their primes today. I can see it now:

"Sugar Ray is on DAZN, Hearns is on Fox, so the fight can't happen"

"Sugar Ray does bigger numbers, so Hearns should have to cross the street, even if Fox makes a 50 million dollar offer"

"Hearns only did 200K buys on his last PPV"

"Leonard can make millions fighting overmatched opponents so he doesn't need Hearns"

Fortunately, both Leonard and Hearns felt that the onus was on them to face the killer in his prime (Ages 25 and 22 respectively). They didn't waste years and years hiding behind spreadsheets and financial records to justify not fighting.

I say all that to say that A-sides may not be in the business of taking big risks but legends ARE!

Canelo is already set for life several times over so as a fan, I would be highly disappointed if he didn't at least CONSIDER a 50 million dollar offer to "cross the street" against a perceived threat.

Leonard and Hearns was delayed for years because Hearns insisted on a 50/50 split.

It was only once Hearns accepted he was the B-side, and accepted a lowball flat fee, that the fight finally happened.

Hearns ended up making 5 million while Leonard made 13 million. Leonard was the A-side, had the leverage, and forced Hearns to cave.

The fight only happened because Shelly Finkel was able to leverage his rock tours to get favorable pricing from the arenas to maximize closed circuit revenue.

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Andrade is universally recognized as one of the best at 160, and this is boxing, not "Shark Tank". Charlo should at least strongly consider the offer, especially if would represent a career-high payday (which would account for him being the "bigger star").

Career high payday doesn't mean it's a good deal.

Andrade is universally unknown by the general public. His belt isn't recognized by Fox as a major title. He brings nothing to the table.