ATTN UK Trolls: Joshua lost

[Murcielago]

we dont know what wilder got for the breazeale fight other than reports it was close. was it 15 million? 18 million? who knows. but showtime blew a big chunk of their budget to keep wilder off of ppv.

the KO of breazeale went viral. something that wouldnt have happened if the fight was on DAZN.

wilder stayed loyal to PBC and got a 20 million guarantee against ortiz. something that wouldnt have happened if he'd stabbed PBC in the back one fight earlier.

not to mention all the marketing and promotion showtime and fox did for wilder this year. he's doubled his number of followers this year alone.

also, breazeale was a mandatory opponent. wilder can't just sell the fight to DAZN without breazeale's cooperation. how much was DAZN offering breazeale? did breazeale stand to make more on showtime?

Why wouldn't Wilder's KO of Breazeale not have gonna viral on DAZN?

On Showtimes' YouTube page it got 2.4 million views, on Bleacher it got 4.4 million views, that's 6.6 million views while the Joshua/Ruiz highlights are about to reach 16 million views on DAZN's YouTube page alone. That sounds pretty viral to me.

[N/A]

Why wouldn't Wilder's KO of Breazeale not have gonna viral on DAZN?

Would have had far fewer people watching the fight. The ending was emphatic, but the result was not shocking. Would have been less likely to be the top story on Sportscenter as ESPN tries to avoid promoting DAZN unless absolutely necessary.

[Jax teller]

Would have had far fewer people watching the fight. The ending was emphatic, but the result was not shocking. Would have been less likely to be the top story on Sportscenter as ESPN tries to avoid promoting DAZN unless absolutely necessary.

You just gonna ignore the rest of his post showing DAZN content going more viral and the fact the live event only got around 700,000 viewers. Surely Wilder would bring extra US veiwers to DAZN to get it near that number, unless you are saying he's not a draw at all?

[QueensburyRules]

DAZN offered Wilder $20 million for a Breazeale fight and $80 million for two Joshua fights, if Joshua won his interim fight.

Wilder turned down fighting Breazeale on DAZN and told DAZN he'd wait to see if Joshua won his interim fight, before negotiating a Joshua fight.

Joshua lost his interim fight.

So no, Wilder didn't turn down $100 million because the $100 million was contingent on Joshua winning, which he didn't.

Had Joshua won, and DAZN then re-offered $80 million, or even more, for Wilder to fight him twice, you could second guess Wilder if he turned it down.

But it makes no sense to second guess Wilder for turning DAZN's offer when Joshua didn't end up winning anyway.

- -U wearing Deyonce WBC skirt today?

[QueensburyRules]

unless you are saying he's not a draw at all?

- -Dear Deyonce been making peanuts wearing the WBC skirt.

Now he's begging Fury for a rematch.

[rickJen]

That's not why Winkel and Wilder turned it down.
Weasel Winkel wanted to know how much AJ will be getting.
"They're being dishonest," says Deyonce recently.
All this time it's always been about the money for these disgusting people.

And now Ruiz is in possession of the titles.
And I hope Ruiz wins again in the rematch.

Wilder is begging for another help from Fury.

[N/A]

You just gonna ignore the rest of his post showing DAZN content going more viral and the fact the live event only got around 700,000 viewers. Surely Wilder would bring extra US veiwers to DAZN to get it near that number, unless you are saying he's not a draw at all?

Anthony Joshua being shockingly upset and knocked out is a much bigger story than Deontay Wilder knocking someone out. Wilder knocks people out all the time. Joshua had never lost before and Ruiz winning drew parallels to Buster Douglas. It was too big of a story for ESPN to ignore. Wilder knocking out Breazeale on DAZN would have been very easy to ignore. Which channels shows the highlights of other channels is a very political matter.

Showtime doesn't release their numbers, so you have no idea what the actual number was. You just know the linear cable/satellite number. Millions more subscribe via the Showtime app, not to mention the Showtime Anytime users.

No, Wilder vs. Breazeale wouldn't have had nearly as many viewers on DAZN as DAZN has a tiny percentage of the subscribers Showtime has. They also have far fewer ways to spread the word about their events. When you fight on DAZN, nobody knows about it. Unless you're Canelo. And even with Canelo, he's fighting in the middle of the night because UFC is able to spread the word about their events on basic cable and DAZN isn't.

[REDEEMER]

Finkel said so publicly. As for Haymon, I'm not going to reveal private correspondence.




Wilder decided to accept against the advice of his management.




Wilder's side publicly confirmed they would sign the contract at the end of the week they'd received the contract. That is a reasonable length of time.

They simply pointed out that Joshua hadn't signed as an example of Hearn lying, since Hearn had publicly claimed Joshua had signed even though he hadn't.

Hearn signs AJ contracts stop lying.


Finkel had over a week to comply but he hid away again knowing the WBA was going to interfere when he said he wasn’t signing the contract he asked for and they would demand Povetkin become mandatory after Hearn had already held them off for months trying to get Wilder fight and had used up all his extensions with the WBA.

Stop lying.Ha

[Jax teller]

Anthony Joshua being shockingly upset and knocked out is a much bigger story than Deontay Wilder knocking someone out. Wilder knocks people out all the time. Joshua had never lost before and Ruiz winning drew parallels to Buster Douglas. It was too big of a story for ESPN to ignore. Wilder knocking out Breazeale on DAZN would have been very easy to ignore. Which channels shows the highlights of other channels is a very political matter.

Showtime doesn't release their numbers, so you have no idea what the actual number was. You just know the linear cable/satellite number. Millions more subscribe via the Showtime app, not to mention the Showtime Anytime users.

No, Wilder vs. Breazeale wouldn't have had nearly as many viewers on DAZN as DAZN has a tiny percentage of the subscribers Showtime has. They also have far fewer ways to spread the word about their events. When you fight on DAZN, nobody knows about it. Unless you're Canelo. And even with Canelo, he's fighting in the middle of the night because UFC is able to spread the word about their events on basic cable and DAZN isn't.

So Wilder isn't a draw and won't bring fans to DAZN?

Not all showtimes subscribers are for boxing and you're not worth talking to if you gonna dispute the generally accepted figures.... again.

It's another case of AJ's purse is secretly inflated Wilders is secretly deflated.

DAZN's veiwing figures are inflated and Showtimes are secret and deflated.

Predictable.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

DAZN offered Wilder $20 million for a Breazeale fight and $80 million for two Joshua fights, if Joshua won his interim fight.

Wilder turned down fighting Breazeale on DAZN and told DAZN he'd wait to see if Joshua won his interim fight, before negotiating a Joshua fight.

Joshua lost his interim fight.

So no, Wilder didn't turn down $100 million because the $100 million was contingent on Joshua winning, which he didn't.

Had Joshua won, and DAZN then re-offered $80 million, or even more, for Wilder to fight him twice, you could second guess Wilder if he turned it down.

But it makes no sense to second guess Wilder for turning DAZN's offer when Joshua didn't end up winning anyway.

Facts...

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