Joshua vs Ruiz 2 Isn't even a tough fight to call

[billeau2]

precisely correct. you dont throw combinations like that inside! inside is typically in range to put a shoulderon your guy, clinch, etc. ruiz was not close enough to get clinched! he was off a little to his right and he'd land the hook. or a little to his left and he'd club wtih the right hand. or all the way to the right and he'd land the right hand high on the side of joshua's head. squared up he threw to the chest. NEVER was he leaning on joshua, joe fraziering in there. he was inside of joshua's jab and nothing else! he was not inside! he was at a middle distance where he can throw combinations and where his combos have some real mustard. just listen to the kid work pads, it's clear he's one of, if not the best combination puncher in the divison. he needs to be at the right distance to throw hard, and it's not at the end of a long right hand! it's "in the pocket" not inside.

It is also his movement. He is never waiting outside, he is cutting the ring off, moving past Joshua into that middle range. Ruiz is very good at pressuring and not chasing a puncher. The pressure fighter plays a dangerous but effective game, with the idea to not let the puncher set for his punches.

Ruiz reminds me of a better Chris Aeriola how he manages this pressure.

[billeau2]

It, not easy, and yes, bad decisions don't help.
But a fight needs to be competitive for a bad decision to happen.

But anyone claiming Joshua has zero chance or Ruiz has zero chance to win the rematch doesn't have a clue about boxing.

Ruiz is a 3/1 underdog for this fight last time I checked, if the OP was that confident he would be pilling it on.

I agree they both have a chance to win... but on those bad decisions? I don't know about that. I won't ever bet on boxing again.

[Queen_Leia]

Mid range is where Ruiz fights, not inside. It wasn't a dog fight or anything.

Nah, Ruiz walks his opponents down and closes the distances...he is not the taller, longer fighter.

[Queen_Leia]

You know that huh? How many people have done that to Ruiz? Also your overconfidence appears to be sizing the situation up with a common misconception. I always try to use examples and precedent.

A very strong hitter is much more dangerous when they can pick and choose when to hit. Tyson was pressured by Holyfield and could not attack him without being put on his heels. Wilder will have Ruiz on him, pressuring him. It won't be easy for Wilder to get off a clean punch.

How many people have dropped Ortiz before Wilder? There is always a first time for everything. Wilder KO percentage is at 95% and Ruiz has been down before so to think that Wilder couldn't drop him is ludicrous.

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[LacedUp]

This guy will be the first to downplay Joshua's win if he wins against Ruiz.

[Toffee]

How many people have dropped Ortiz before Wilder? There is always a first time for everything. Wilder KO percentage is at 95% and Ruiz has been down before so to think that Wilder couldn't drop him is ludicrous.

Ortiz has two fights of note on his resume. Both were ko losses.

I wouldn't call it a great achievement not being knocked down by Kauffman.

[Scopedog]

I have a hard time taking anybody who says this is a clear cut fight to predict very seriously. Even though a repeat of the result the first time seems like the easiest pick to make, for some reason people gloss over the fact that Joshua put Ruiz flat on his ass in that fight, and it was a proper, hard knockdown, not a flash one. If Joshua hadn't charged in and got caught the way he did, chances are that fight would have ended up with the polar opposite result. That's what makes this such a compelling fight, not only is it a fascinating story for multiple reasons but also it's genuinely hard to tell what exactly is going to happen - so much depends on questions that only a tiny number of people could possibly hold the answers to.

[MisterPullman]

A Joshua win would defy boxing logic.

To expect a win would be to forget everything you saw on June 1st.

Unless Andy sustains a severe injury or gets robbed blind by the judges, it's not possible.

Really?

I think AJ is going to win it, wether it's UD or a late KO

[billeau2]

How many people have dropped Ortiz before Wilder? There is always a first time for everything. Wilder KO percentage is at 95% and Ruiz has been down before so to think that Wilder couldn't drop him is ludicrous.

Why swing the pendulum back and fourth to extremes? If we look at the fight carefully we have a situation where Wilder is facing a different kind of fighter. It does not mean he will not, or cannot KO Ruiz, but it is a consideration. Ortiz is not by any means a pressure fighter, he is a technically excellent boxer puncher with one gear, a great chin, and power to spare.

There is a reason why Ortiz was dropped... Wilder could pick and choose his spots. Now...this is an opinion: I don't think Ortiz did much of anything to Wilder... I frankly doubt those crooked judges would have had the scores they claimed, when Ortiz was KO'ed. In other words, Ortiz did nothing to scare, or make Wilder hesitate. Thats a very important consideration.

Compare Ruiz when he attacks AJ at every turn. When he pressures AJ makes him go back and cover up. How will Wilder deal with this pressure? He may be so incredible that he uncorks again, or he may be exposed. it should be an interesting match.