Comments Thread For: Ortiz Trainer: "Hell No!" - Other Heavyweights Can't Beat Luis

[davefromvancouv]

thats a strange way of rewriting history but joshua offered ortiz 7 million and haymon matched that. you got it backwards. the whole reason he got that much from pbc is because of joshua so he should thank joshua for setting him up for life. without him he gets his usual 1 mill or so.

Luis Ortiz offered $5 million to fight Joshua:

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-turned-down-5m-asked-10m-fight-joshua-61--138307

Luis Ortiz guaranteed in an excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch:
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[BangEM]

Says the old pensioner who ran from $7million, lol.

The most overrated boxer in history.

[BoZz]

just fu** off will ya?!! The old sack of sh** gassed out before round 5 even tho there were no real exchanges, he was breathing out of his ass...every other HW out there beats this bum. I understand he needs more money but save us with that bull**** talk, no one is ****** enough to believe your rubbish

[kafkod]

Actually, the truth is Ortiz was a WBA mandatory for JOSHUA, but Hearn convinced Ortiz to step aside and allow Joshua to fight Klitschko for the WBA belt instead ...

So according to your version of "the truth" Ortiz was AJ's WBA mando before AJ even became the WBA champion!

What actually happened was that the WBA ordered the winner of AJ/Wlad to fight their mando Ortiz next, and the IBF also ordered the winner to fight their mando next, who was Pulev.

Obviously, the winner couldn't fight both of them next, so the IBF and WBA held a meeting and decided that the IBF mando should happen first, because it had been ordered first.

Nothing to with Hearn convincing anybody to do anything.

Then after Joshua beat Klitschko, Hearn chose to renege on Ortiz again and had Joshua satisfy the IBF mandatory with Pulev. Even after Pulev refused, Ortiz was ignored yet again and Joshua somehow managed to fight Takam for the IBF mandatory. Ortiz realized he was getting the shaft, jumped out of the WBA rating, left Matchroom and Wilder gave him a shot.

More ridiculous bullshit!

I explained above why it was that the IBF mando was given precedence over the WBA mando after AJ beat Wlad. Hearn didn't have the power to choose which one came first, ffs!

AJ didn't just just "somehow manage" to fight Takam after Pulev withdrew. Takam was next in line for the IBF mando position so AJ had to fight him next. That's how this stuff works.

And Ortiz didn't jump out of the WBA ranking because he realised he wasn't getting a shot. He opted to sign with Haymon and fight Wilder instead of waiting, and lost his WBA No1 ranking when he first failed a PED test, then got KTFO by Wilder.

thats a strange way of rewriting history

These people seem to think that if they tell the same lies over and over again, the truth will be forgotten.

[daggum]

Luis Ortiz offered $5 million to fight Joshua:

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-turned-down-5m-asked-10m-fight-joshua-61--138307

Luis Ortiz guaranteed in an excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch:
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the final offer was 7 million buddy. you are using old links. like i said haymon matched dazn's offer. great for ortiz.

[kafkod]

Luis Ortiz offered $5 million to fight Joshua:

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-turned-down-5m-asked-10m-fight-joshua-61--138307

Luis Ortiz guaranteed in an excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch:
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Stop lying man!

Ortiz was offered $7million to fight AJ. His own manager and trainer verified that!

And he his purse for Wilder $1.5million, plus a cut of the PPV income, whatever that turns out to be. And going by what we've heard so far, it won't be anywhere near $7million.

[Shadoww702]

Ortiz obviously still has something to offer, but I wouldn’t favor him over any top heavyweight now. I think he can still serve as an entertaining opponent for almost anyone, but his best days are simply too far behind him. And really, assuming he really is 40 (which I don’t believe he is) how many more fights does he have left? One? Two?

A rank Ortiz higher than Whyte for now. IMO he’s still got 1-3 good fights left in him.

[Shadoww702]

Luis Ortiz offered $5 million to fight Joshua:

https://www.boxingscene.com/luis-ortiz-turned-down-5m-asked-10m-fight-joshua-61--138307

Luis Ortiz guaranteed in an excess of $7 million for the Wilder rematch:
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Makes sense taking the $7 million. But if he would of beat AJ???

[VislorTurlough]

Ignore the Matchroom employees. They are paid to spin it. Their man pissed dirty, was nailed by UKAD, didn’t tell the opponent and was containing the ugly truth until a US writer blew Hearn’s cover. Big question- where was the “British press”? How did a US independent journalist find this out? Did the UK sportswriters know and go along with it to cover for Hearn? If Whyte had signed with PBC - the wilder fight would have already happened. Every Wilder Defense has been against a fellow PBC fighter, except mandatory Stiverne. Sucks but that’s business. Joshua was supposed to fight Miller - a Matchroom fighter. When Miller pissed dirty, it was offered to Whyte, who passed. At that point Matchroom was out of either names, or notable Americans for a big Madison square garden fight. Hearn had no options but call the guy with the bulk of US HWs. Haymon. Rest is history. Ortiz passed and it came to Ruiz. It’s business. But pissing dirty and covering it up is pure sleaze and that’s why the boxing world hates Whyte

[Ake-Dawg]

Stop lying man!

Ortiz was offered $7million to fight AJ. His own manager and trainer verified that!

And he his purse for Wilder $1.5million, plus a cut of the PPV income, whatever that turns out to be. And going by what we've heard so far, it won't be anywhere near $7million.

Exactly what does Ortiz not fighting Joshua on DAZN in June have to do with his ability to beat Whyte, Kownacki, or Fury?