It does beg the question: WHY could Wilder not KO Fury?

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    #1

    It does beg the question: WHY could Wilder not KO Fury?

    Sure, Stiverne survived the first, but that's because Wilder never loaded up. He connected, but not with full power in the first fight.

    The first time Wilder connected on Fury was a flash knockdown, easily. But late game that was flush on the button...and it didn't knock Fury out. Might have stunned him for 5 seconds or so, but I still say Fury laying on the mat was more about ring IQ to avoid a Zab Judah Bambi situation getting up too fast. Confirmed by Fury proceeding to go right back to outboxing Wilder that round.

    But how/why was that possible?

    Can't be weight because Stiverne.
    Can't be height because Breezy.

    Makes me wonder if the fact it was late round took just enough off of Wilder's power to prevent a complete nap. Meaning Fury's strategy was spot on - outbox and keep defensive - and he just got sloppy.

    Because if that's true, it means Andy Ruiz has no chance in hell, because he'd get caught early just like he did against Joshua.

    Means Tyson Fury is really the only guy who has a chance to beat Wilder. A strong chance.
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    #2
    It was the weight. At 212 pounds Wilder wasnt performing at his best. 220 is his perfect weight.

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      #3
      I think he could have and nearly did. The straight right landed last night might have done it, the monster shot that slept Breazeale I think would have.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Santa_
        It was the weight. At 212 pounds Wilder wasnt performing at his best. 220 is his perfect weight.
        He was under 220 for the first Ortiz fight and yes, he got buzzed, but he still got the KO. I'm just talking about the KO.

        Statistically there is something to weight for him and his power, but even with accumulation he couldn't get Fury out of there.

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          #5
          Originally posted by revelated
          He was under 220 for the first Ortiz fight and yes, he got buzzed, but he still got the KO. I'm just talking about the KO.

          Statistically there is something to weight for him and his power, but even with accumulation he couldn't get Fury out of there.
          Fury's inner undertaker was also channeled.

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            Because they couldn't buy off Fury, that's why. They bought a draw from Fury but that's all they could get.

            Wilder vs Fury was a business alliance production to upvalue both of their values while trying to discredit Hearn and Joshua. But the fake fight failed it's objective. Fury and Wilder are both still minor league draws. And now Arum is invested in Fury and will not agree to any draw this time.

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              Because fury isnt a bum or 40 years old

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                #8
                In second fight he will not even drop Fury.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Santa_
                  Fury's inner undertaker was also channeled.

                  "At the end of the day", Wilder didn't get the KO against Fury despite trying harder than I've ever seen him try and landing flush on the button. And regardless, even in the thumbnail for that video, Fury's eyes are square on the ref watching the count so he knows when to get up. Stunned, not knocked out, which is why the ref didn't call it.

                  So either Fury is a tougher fighter than everyone Wilder's faced, or Wilder doesn't have KO power in the championship rounds, meaning the best way to beat him is a solid defense, not a solid offense.

                  If you accept that, I see no version of Andy Ruiz that beats Wilder and of the current heavyweights, the only one I see possibly beating him is Tyson Fury.

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                    Because he wasn't able to land cleanly on Fury. It's pretty difficult to KO someone when you can't land on them with any consistency. Pretty much the only time he did land Fury went down hard and most refs would have waved the fight off.

                    Wilders right hand is the hardest punch in boxing history. Time and time again he's able to get out boxed and then get a one punch KO.

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