It does beg the question: WHY could Wilder not KO Fury?

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #21
    Originally posted by revelated
    Which begs also the question of why Otto Wallin was able to give him problems when Wilder couldn't.
    Styles make fights and Wallin just had luck to make Fury this huge cut.

    Wallin was outboxed by one-eyed man. Without that cut Fury would probably stop him.

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    • techliam
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      #22
      Because Fury can take Wilders best shot, get up, and outbox Wilder for the rest of the round

      The rest of Wilders barren resume clearly cant, but that indicates the difference between nobodies and a world class fighter

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        #23
        Originally posted by revelated
        You might be right - but again, such a lack of motivation and concentration from Fury should have basically guaranteed Wilder a KO.
        It almost did.He is too ****y. Fury and Wilder are both anomalies and I am going to enjoy how their careers play out. Hopefully they see eachother again to settle it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
          Styles make fights and Wallin just had luck to make Fury this huge cut.

          Wallin was outboxed by one-eyed man. Without that cut Fury would probably stop him.
          That wasn't luck, bro. Wallin knew exactly what he was doing. Did you see him rake the glove tie across the cut in the clinch?

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            #25
            Fury has strong will power,there are different levels in life

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              #26
              He tried ...but Fury became the undertaker right after and got up in 12th

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                #27
                Fury lubed himself up with baby oil

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by historian larry
                  Fury has strong will power,there are different levels in life
                  Apparently only when he's in there with guys like Wilder, because Wallin shouldn't have been able to touch him.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by revelated
                    Sure, Stiverne survived the first, but that's because Wilder never loaded up. He connected, but not with full power in the first fight.

                    The first time Wilder connected on Fury was a flash knockdown, easily. But late game that was flush on the button...and it didn't knock Fury out. Might have stunned him for 5 seconds or so, but I still say Fury laying on the mat was more about ring IQ to avoid a Zab Judah Bambi situation getting up too fast. Confirmed by Fury proceeding to go right back to outboxing Wilder that round.

                    But how/why was that possible?

                    Can't be weight because Stiverne.
                    Can't be height because Breezy.

                    Makes me wonder if the fact it was late round took just enough off of Wilder's power to prevent a complete nap. Meaning Fury's strategy was spot on - outbox and keep defensive - and he just got sloppy.

                    Because if that's true, it means Andy Ruiz has no chance in hell, because he'd get caught early just like he did against Joshua.

                    Means Tyson Fury is really the only guy who has a chance to beat Wilder. A strong chance.

                    Because fury rose to the occasion. He deserved the win.. as it was no easy task to survived wilder for that long while landing a lot of your shots as well.

                    And yup it was round 12 too.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by revelated
                      Sure, Stiverne survived the first, but that's because Wilder never loaded up. He connected, but not with full power in the first fight.

                      The first time Wilder connected on Fury was a flash knockdown, easily. But late game that was flush on the button...and it didn't knock Fury out. Might have stunned him for 5 seconds or so, but I still say Fury laying on the mat was more about ring IQ to avoid a Zab Judah Bambi situation getting up too fast. Confirmed by Fury proceeding to go right back to outboxing Wilder that round.

                      But how/why was that possible?

                      Can't be weight because Stiverne.
                      Can't be height because Breezy.

                      Makes me wonder if the fact it was late round took just enough off of Wilder's power to prevent a complete nap. Meaning Fury's strategy was spot on - outbox and keep defensive - and he just got sloppy.

                      Because if that's true, it means Andy Ruiz has no chance in hell, because he'd get caught early just like he did against Joshua.

                      Means Tyson Fury is really the only guy who has a chance to beat Wilder. A strong chance.
                      Ruiz Jr would let his hands go and land on Wilder probably more than he did on AJ because of Wilders lack of defense. I do think Ruiz gets slept if caught clean but I also think he can hurt Wilder badly and early. It would be a firefight for as long as it lasted.

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