Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

[Phenom]

wtf did I just read, interim champ. Damn you're sinking low

Parker beat Takam, H. Fury and Ruiz RECENTLY. On top of the who's who of the journeyman list. If you take away those three names, his resume is equal to Ortiz's.

Povetkin.. I mean, not that I have to go into it, because it's obvious, but he's a former world champ, has 6-7 world champs on his record, plus a series of top contenders who he fought from the early days of his career. It's pointless to compare his resume to Ortiz's.

Interim champion means Ortiz was the highest ranked champion and should've been the WBA super champion by the WBA rules before the WBA decided to sell the belt to Hearn and AJ who wasn't even ranked by them

And why are you using Takam or Hugie as some big names how are they better than the names on Ortiz resume? Takam at best is European level boxer ffs

And if Povetkin is a former world champion then so is Ortiz

[Laligalaliga]

Ortiz has only lost one round in his entire career, the fifth round against Wilder in the first fight.

He’s very good.

Is that what the judges card said?

[Laligalaliga]

I wanna see Ortiz against a top 10 hw not named Wilder, before he retires.

I don't trust wilder....he could hype him again and give him a third fight.

[Laligalaliga]

I disagree. He's a southpaw with a lot of skill and good power. If he was such a light touch others would of fought him with no problem. The only ones that did or tried were Wilder and AJ. No Takam, Parker, Whyte, Povetkin, Fury, heck not even Gerald Washington, Kownacki, Chisora, Arreola. None of them wanted that smoke

Its obvious you don't have an idea what was going on.
The guy is a pbc undercard fighter.
Whyte wanted him for a ppv event in the UK but he preferred an undercard fight for the pbc.
You can't blame anyone for his shallow resume.

[OnlytheTruth]

I’m still dumbfounded why he’d move into wilder’s right hand and to the ropes, when there was nothing stopping him from moving to his right to the centre of the ring.

My thoughts exactly. I saw the threat but didn't see the punch. It was so quick, or I'm so slow.

[LacedUp]

Interim champion means Ortiz was the highest ranked champion and should've been the WBA super champion by the WBA rules before the WBA decided to sell the belt to Hearn and AJ who wasn't even ranked by them

And why are you using Takam or Hugie as some big names how are they better than the names on Ortiz resume? Takam at best is European level boxer ffs

And if Povetkin is a former world champion then so is Ortiz

You do know that Povetkin held an actual WBA belt and not an interim belt right?

Takam and Hughie aren't especially good, that's true. That should tell you a bit about how crap Ortiz's resume is.

Anyway, you're reaching and you know it. all this stuff about Ortiz being a beast has been debunked a long time ago. Way before Wilder even beat him the first time.

[LacedUp]

Is that what the judges card said?

No, it's also not true at all. He lost several rounds against Jennings, one against Hammer etc. Simple fact checking would prove that it was bs.

Plus he also lost multiple rounds against Wilder in both fights on at least one judges scorecard.

[Zaroku]

I agree and I am a Wilder fan. It's the morons who try to hype him as Deontay's best win.

i know this might sound crazy, and I am considered a crazy guy by idiots.. ok

that said..

Wilder hit Charlie Zelenoff, clean, and although beaten, Charlie was not knocked out..

Charlie Z took a few good shots from Deyonte and got up...

[Laligalaliga]

No, it's also not true at all. He lost several rounds against Jennings, one against Hammer etc. Simple fact checking would prove that it was bs.

Plus he also lost multiple rounds against Wilder in both fights on at least one judges scorecard.

He has always been a clown. Thats how they hyped Ortiz till they KTFO him.

[Phenom]

You do know that Povetkin held an actual WBA belt and not an interim belt right?

Takam and Hughie aren't especially good, that's true. That should tell you a bit about how crap Ortiz's resume is.

Anyway, you're reaching and you know it. all this stuff about Ortiz being a beast has been debunked a long time ago. Way before Wilder even beat him the first time.

You do know that Wlad was the WBA champion right?

Is Manuel Charr the Heavyweight Champion? Stay consistent in your own argument

If you consider Povetkin a Heavyweight Champion then you have to with Ortiz too