Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

[LacedUp]

Yes tf he was! B4 he lost to Wilder he was considered #3. Thats b4 Ruiz, b4 Fury came back.

No he wasn't. joseph parker and Povetkin were ranked above him. Rightfully so.

He was never ever considered top 3, quite simply because he doesn't have any top 10 wins in his career. he's beaten no former champions, no nothing.

[daggum]

I feel you, but it’s like the joshua wilder conversation. Joshua has way more bodies on his record, because way more people want to fight him. Does he get credit for those wins, for sure, but does that make him better than wilder? Maybe? I don’t think so. No one wants to fight Ortiz and he’s always acquitted himself well in the ring

joshua just tried to fight him and offered him 7 million which is what haymon matched so he wouldn't help dazn. how is that not wanting to fight him? i know wilder said the same thing but its nonsense.

[daggum]

No he wasn't. joseph parker and Povetkin were ranked above him. Rightfully so.

He was never ever considered top 3, quite simply because he doesn't have any top 10 wins in his career. he's beaten no former champions, no nothing.

he beat bryant jennings so he has one and that proves he is the real deal. meanwhile ggg has 10 but he's a bum basher. oh yeah and the same people say this

[Curtis Harper]

Fury is the most hyped up guy.

Everyone he fights is quality and the best version.
On the rare occasion Fury fights a bum, those fights are swept under the rug....never to be mentioned.

Then again, word in NSBville is Otto is the next best thing

[Phenom]

No he wasn't. joseph parker and Povetkin were ranked above him. Rightfully so.

He was never ever considered top 3, quite simply because he doesn't have any top 10 wins in his career. he's beaten no former champions, no nothing.

Who did Parker or Povetkin beat? Ortiz was the WBA interim champion and should've gotten the full belt before the WBA sold it to the highest bidder

Only the WBO ranked Parker above Ortiz

[Curt Henning]

You're comparing a MW and a HW? Are you a ******?

the only ****** here is you...

im not comparing HW/MW chins or power

im comparing the ratio of hate/praise between golovkin and wilder

wilder puts down his top 5 HWs.....golovkin doesnt.....but when golovkin is knocking out wade, stevens, lemiuex etc he is declared an ATG while wilder is hounded for knocking out similar level comp

[Curt Henning]

joshua just tried to fight him and offered him 7 million which is what haymon matched so he wouldn't help dazn. how is that not wanting to fight him? i know wilder said the same thing but its nonsense.

why didnt they go to ortiz with that offer in the first place? why miller? why did they only offer ortiz on short notice as a replacement?

[LacedUp]

Who did Parker or Povetkin beat? Ortiz was the WBA interim champion and should've gotten the full belt before the WBA sold it to the highest bidder

Only the WBO ranked Parker above Ortiz

wtf did I just read, interim champ. Damn you're sinking low

Parker beat Takam, H. Fury and Ruiz RECENTLY. On top of the who's who of the journeyman list. If you take away those three names, his resume is equal to Ortiz's.

Povetkin.. I mean, not that I have to go into it, because it's obvious, but he's a former world champ, has 6-7 world champs on his record, plus a series of top contenders who he fought from the early days of his career. It's pointless to compare his resume to Ortiz's.

[LacedUp]

why didnt they go to ortiz with that offer in the first place? why miller? why did they only offer ortiz on short notice as a replacement?

Let's see.. why would anyone choose an undefeated trash talking new yorker for a new york debut over an unknown cuban who was just KOd?

Sure doesn't make sense!

[LacedUp]

he beat bryant jennings so he has one and that proves he is the real deal. meanwhile ggg has 10 but he's a bum basher. oh yeah and the same people say this

Oh yeah the mighty Bryant jennings