Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

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  • .!WAR MIKEY!.
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    #41
    every damn fight it never fails.

    Ortiz is legit.

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    • ecto55
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      #42
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      For the top level.

      He's slow as hell and it was embarrassingly obvious that this guy couldn't do anything to Wilder.

      Wilder was patient, patient, patient and ****, that's it. That's what separates a pretender from a champion.

      Ortiz got paid tonight, good for him. But please, for the love of God, we should all appreciate that this guy simply never was anywhere near what these wilder fanboys wanted us to believe he was.

      A 6 rounds slow plodder with a decent left counter.
      Yep...that's about it. Wilder can really crack, but we already knew that.

      Kind of hoped Wilder might have shown more versatility in the ways to land the right hand....it's one thing to be patient but its not a good habit to have to wait so long....and I'll have to have another look but it didn't really look like Wilder created the opportunity, but seen one and just took it.

      Ortiz really didn't do a great deal at all, other than landing a few jabs / left crosses...it seemed the threat of his offense more than anything kept Wilder fighting conservatively.

      Obviously all it took was one opportunity (some punch!), but it kind of means that a more disciplined opponent who doesn't have any lapses could easily run out the clock / go the distance.

      At the least, Wilder could be jabbing more so it least he looks like he'd active and not simply giving away rounds...I wonder what Breland makes of all the lost rounds.

      Great knockout and good win anyway.
      Last edited by ecto55; 11-24-2019, 07:50 AM.

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      • SplitSecond
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        #43
        Originally posted by New England
        what fight were you guys watching?

        he pretty much dominated until the very end of the 7th round.
        Basically. Ortiz was sharp and fast, i’m not sure he took a single solid right till the one that ko’d him, defense on point. Dominated wilder till that power hit him.

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        • A.K
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          #44
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          Really? Why didn't he kill any of the journeymen he went in against? Why didn't he kill Christian Hammer, a guy Fury played with and stopped as soon as he stepped on the gas?

          It's a complete joke.
          He did.. it’s a figure of speech

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #45
            Ortiz was dominating because Wilder allowed him to. he was not first man dominating Wilder until the stoppage, Washington also did. Wilder`s game plan was clear: waiting on a KO.

            Ortiz was much more dangerous in first fight, he almost took Wilder out in 7th than.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ecto55
              Yep...that's about it. Wilder can really crack, but we already knew that.

              Kind of hoped Wilder might have shown more versatility in the ways to land the right hand....it's one thing to be patient but its not a good habit to have to wait so long....and I'll have to have another look but it didn't really look like Wilder created the opportunity, but seen one and just took it.

              Ortiz really didn't do a great deal at all, other than landing a few jabs / left crosses...it seemed the threat of his offense more than anything kept Wilder fighting conservatively.

              Obviously all it took was one opportunity (some punch!), but it kind of means that a more disciplined opponent who doesn't have any lapses could easily run out the clock / go the distance.

              At the least, Wilder could be jabbing more so it least he looks like he'd active and not simply giving away rounds...I wonder what Breland makes of all the lost rounds.

              Great knockout and good win anyway.
              It’s not about lapses, no one can go an entire fight without getting hit. Ortiz just doesnt have the chin to help him last or the power to crush Wilder before he himself gets hit. Wilder is tough for anyone to beat.

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              • Zaroku
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                #47
                in slow motion..... only in slow motion. a man called manny pac man could ko everyone on the face of the earth with a check hook.

                all bs aside.. nobody will give wilder da credit.. he is a knee grow...a chit talking man.. who packs dynamite in both hands..

                sorry for my pac bull crap.. there is enough of that and I need not fan the flames of pinoy pride..

                the old man lost.... ok.. i myself am a old man



                beating up an old man is cool as long as the old man leaves the ring proper... Wilder kinda dimished his legacy by beating up an old guy.. an old guy who did not know or believe he was out gunned..

                respect to Ortiz...he came up short... he is old..so am I....

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                • STREET CLEANER
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                  #48
                  If Ortiz was fighting or being promoted by a Brit then he would be very hyped up as one of the best in the World.

                  Truth of the matter is that Wilder has a very ugly style and looks unbalanced most of the time. But the right hand is legit.

                  Fury is the only one that has the size and skills to repeat a performance as long as he does get caught. As we all saw Wilder's power is still there at the 12th round.

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                  • Vinnykin
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                    #49
                    People hype up his amateur record as well, but even that can be called into question as he fought most of them in Cuba, against other Cubans. It's not like the guy was an Olympic or world travelling amateur fighting elite amateurs.... the ones he did fight he lost.

                    Padded amateur and pro CV, old, no momentum or good wins..... guys a bum made out to be the boogeyman.

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                    • Curt Henning
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                      #50
                      lol....ortiz is a good fighter and a legit top 5 HW...

                      wilders last 29 rounds against top 5 HWs have produced 6 knockdowns

                      how about golovkins last 36 rounds against top 5 MWs? if, for the sake of argument, i decide to call chenko a top 5 MW thats how many knockdowns in his last 48 rounds against top 5 MWs?

                      LOL

                      you suckers will stay writing essays propping up golovkins resume pre-jacobs telling us how geale, macklin and lemiuex were actually good wins ....then come here and write tripe about how ortiz sucks.....pathetic losers

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