Wilder's punch is for real. But Ortiz is and always was crap

[Curt Henning]

Ortiz was dominating because Wilder allowed him to. he was not first man dominating Wilder until the stoppage, Washington also did. Wilder`s game plan was clear: waiting on a KO.

Ortiz was much more dangerous in first fight, he almost took Wilder out in 7th than.

i swear...everytime wilder fights these fgts get amnesia...."he was dominating and winning rounds"

ive told these losers time and time again...after awhile it stops becoming a "coincidence"....it becomes a pattern....its like theyve forgotten every previous fight.....

if its not that it will be something like "till wilder got lucky and landed the hail mary"....which happens basically in every fight....

wilder is measuring and calculating....its not pretty...its not conventional....it makes you nervous if you are a fan of his.....but he gets the job done

[Rusty Tromboni]

I actually was impressed by him last night.

Nothing great, but clearly not a bum.

Outside of the extraordinary Fury, he's the best Wilder has faced. He's probably top 5-10 among Heavyweights.

I didn't think he'd last 3.

[NaijaD]

I wouldn't say he sucks but definitely overrated, I thought he was doing as well as he could but I wasn't in awe because outboxing Wilder is not some mean feat and all the while I just knew that the first clean right hand would end him. Outside of Wilder the only other notable guy he's fought is Jennings and that sort of leaves him as abit of an unknown entity. You either think hes a solid top 10 contender because he beat Jennings and a bunch of fringe/low level guys or you think he's a top 5 guy because he gave Wilder a tough fight first time round.

But yeah Wilder's power is real and to me its gotten more devastating in the last 2 years, he's like one of those dark souls or bloodborne bosses that you hammer away at for a few minutes only for them to kill you with one hit. The man is an awful boxer but that Power is just far too lethal against this crop of average heavyweights, he'll be favoured against anyone not named Fury at this point.

[NYG]

lol....ortiz is a good fighter and a legit top 5 HW...

wilders last 29 rounds against top 5 HWs have produced 6 knockdowns

how about golovkins last 36 rounds against top 5 MWs? if, for the sake of argument, i decide to call chenko a top 5 MW thats how many knockdowns in his last 48 rounds against top 5 MWs?

LOL

you suckers will stay writing essays propping up golovkins resume pre-jacobs telling us how geale, macklin and lemiuex were actually good wins ....then come here and write tripe about how ortiz sucks.....pathetic losers

You're comparing a MW and a HW? Are you a ******?

[TheUptownKid]

Ortiz is a solid fighter and i would have rated him over Andy Ruiz and anyone fury has fought not named klitschko. He was winning an outside fight easily with a very athletic wilder doing twitchy things, I would not label him slow.

[TheUptownKid]

I wouldn't say he sucks but definitely overrated, I thought he was doing as well as he could but I wasn't in awe because outboxing Wilder is not some mean feat and all the while I just knew that the first clean right hand would end him. Outside of Wilder the only other notable guy he's fought is Jennings and that sort of leaves him as abit of an unknown entity. You either think hes a solid top 10 contender because he beat Jennings and a bunch of fringe/low level guys or you think he's a top 5 guy because he gave Wilder a tough fight first time round.

But yeah Wilder's power is real and to me its gotten more devastating in the last 2 years, he's like one of those dark souls or bloodborne bosses that you hammer away at for a few minutes only for them to kill you with one hit. The man is an awful boxer but that Power is just far too lethal against this crop of average heavyweights, he'll be favoured against anyone not named Fury at this point.

I feel you, but it’s like the joshua wilder conversation. Joshua has way more bodies on his record, because way more people want to fight him. Does he get credit for those wins, for sure, but does that make him better than wilder? Maybe? I don’t think so. No one wants to fight Ortiz and he’s always acquitted himself well in the ring

[KillaMane26]

No he was never considered a top 3-4 heavyweight. EVER.

Yes tf he was! B4 he lost to Wilder he was considered #3. Thats b4 Ruiz, b4 Fury came back.

[REDEEMER]

Ortiz is a legit threat but he needed younger legs vs a power puncher with speed and hands attached to an 83 inch reach. Ortiz could defeat most and maybe Wilder if they fought enough but this one is done.

[Real King Kong]

what fight were you guys watching?

he pretty much dominated until the very end of the 7th round.

I didn’t say he wasn’t winning...but he didn’t look good at all.

[LacedUp]

He did.. it’s a figure of speech

Who though? Which three fights made you think Ortiz was a beast? I'd love to hear the list.