How hard does Deontay Wilder hit compared to Foreman, Tua, Shavers etc?

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    #111
    He probably hits harder than all of them for one-shots, definitely. Others like Foreman and Tua hit harder from closer range, I would imagine. I think only Lewis and Wlad come close to Wilder's power because they could really put their huge mass into their power shots.

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      #112
      Originally posted by john l
      No your base your opinion on being a cheerleader. Kownacki prob does have a good chin, but not getting dropped by Wash or Martin don't prove sh it. Also being Polish is the reason he gets the attention he does, not from any REAL skills he has shown yet. There is a large Polish community in MANY big cities in USA, ESP Chicago.
      Yes I am a cheerleader, that's a fact. But there are other facts: he won all his battles; he holds the record for number of punches landed per round; he never has been even rocked, etc. If Fury, Wilder of Joshua had it all they would be labelled already as unbeatables. Unfortunately for them noone can show off with it -- either they did not win all battles or lost by KO or were rocked by weaker opponents.

      Make them fight Adam, we will see how it ends.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Cobra Curry
        I'm going with Shavers, purely because Ron Lyle who fought both men said that Shavers' power was on another to Foreman's which is insane to think about.
        Quick Tillis also said Tyson "hits like a ******" compared to Shavers.

        It's worth bearing in mind that Shavers didn't get his big fights until late in his career.
        I'm not convinced about Shavers' mythical power untill I see early 20th century newspaper clippings about it.

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          #114
          Again, NO ****IN WAY such single hits from Wilder that dropped and finished Ortiz, Breazeale and Stiverne could make Adam drop. NO ****IN WAY. Even Parker or REuiz wouldn't be dropped down with it.

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            #115
            Originally posted by Dariusz
            Yes I am a cheerleader, that's a fact. But there are other facts: he won all his battles; he holds the record for number of punches landed per round; he never has been even rocked, etc. If Fury, Wilder of Joshua had it all they would be labelled already as unbeatables. Unfortunately for them noone can show off with it -- either they did not win all battles or lost by KO or were rocked by weaker opponents.

            Make them fight Adam, we will see how it ends.
            Well at least you admit it. Gotta give you props for that. Come back when Adam has beat a top 10 guy or close.

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              #116
              Originally posted by john l
              Well at least you admit it. Gotta give you props for that. Come back when Adam has beat a top 10 guy or close.
              Opposite to 90% of this board I am always admitting that I am wrong if it happens I am wrong. Give Adam a fair opportunity to beat such "top 10" opponents first. He has beaten all that was given to him, that's all and is the only one in the top 10 who won ALL the battles.

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                #117
                I will tell you what would happen when top form Kownacki battles:
                - vs Wilder: Wilder will be knocked out within 3-4 rounds; he is lost when a strong opponent pushes him very hard (Molina did it for 30 seconds and he wasn't far away from knocking Wilder out; Ortiz did it in the 1st battle in 7th round as well); Kownacki will hit Wilder with dozens of shots comparing to the above; Wilder will be hunting for his right -- he prolly hits Adam with one or two and, to his surprise, he won't see a hurt opponent.
                - vs. Joshua: Joshua will be knocked out around 8-9th round; although technically superior to Wilder he is too weak to knock Adam out in first rounds; the battle will look similar to the Ruiz vs. Joshua 2 but Kownacki will land much more hits to running-away Joshua;
                - vs. Fury: if Fury devotes to boxing, Kownacki will probably lose by outboxing unless he (being technically inferior) is lucky enough to make Fury retreat with multiple punches and finally heavily KO'ed;
                - vs. Ruiz: all is possible, would be a great fight that wouldn't be a chess game;
                - vs. various Pulevs, Usyks, Breazeales, Povetkins, etc.: Adam by mauling easily.

                Good night.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Dariusz
                  Opposite to 90% of this board I am always admitting that I am wrong if it happens I am wrong. Give Adam a fair opportunity to beat such "top 10" opponents first. He has beaten all that was given to him, that's all and is the only one in the top 10 who won ALL the battles.
                  Have NOTHING against Adam, and ALWAYS hope for prospects or young contenders to turn out. Boxing needs all the stars and good fighters as it can get. I just don't see special in Adam. He seems like he takes a pretty good punch, and even though he has not yet had a REAL chance to prove it I suspect he is very tough too. He also has AT LEAST a good engine, no matter how he looks. His defense is terrible though, and he is not real fast or an athletic boxer by any means. His power looks to be decent even for heavy standards, but not "one punch crunch" or real special. I think he is/will be a bottomish top 10, and with a good chin and at least decent power could give problems to any chinny heavy or one with stamina issues even a top one. I think with his defense he gets sparked by Wilder, and has nothing that would work vs Fury. His best style match out of the top is AJ, but his chin would have to all time good, and even then my money would be on AJ. That's my honest opinion on him, just enough to be world class (top 10), but not any more.We will see

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