How hard does Deontay Wilder hit compared to Foreman, Tua, Shavers etc?

[john l]

Let's agree to disagree. Kownacki hasn't been rocked yet, let alone knocked down and I doubt he would be down after this hit. Ruiz and Parker IMO would get up much quicker than Ortiz after this Wilder's right.
I am not arguing who is easier to hit, mind you. I am arguing who has a better chin than Ortiz and wouldn't be knocked out flat and senseless like Ortiz was.

Well lets just agree to disagree like you said because imo neither Parker(who has still not beat a top 10 contender)or Ruiz are in Ortiz's league at least before he was KOed a 2nd time. Kownacki has not fought a top 10 guy either, and from the eye test he looks like a bottom top 10 at best. He may have a good chin though, but he gets hit like Ortiz did he goes to sleep too imo. Too sqaure

[Dariusz]

Well lets just agree to disagree like you said because imo neither Parker(who has still not beat a top 10 contender)or Ruiz are in Ortiz's league at least before he was KOed a 2nd time. Kownacki has not fought a top 10 guy either, and from the eye test he looks like a bottom top 10 at best. He may have a good chin though, but he gets hit like Ortiz did he goes to sleep too imo. Too sqaure

OK, everyone is allowed to have opinions. I base mine on reality -- Kownacki, as you said, is easy to hit. He was hit strongly by series from Washington (end of 1st round), Martin (the last round),etc and HE WASN'T EVEN ROCKED. He wouldn't even be down after this Wilder's right which KOd old Ortiz.
We shall live, we shall see. The problem for Kownacki is that he must wait double or triple time for a belt fight comparing to lesser fighters because he's from Poland. I believe that he will be given the IBF chance, destroys Pulev easily and will become a real contender for Wilders, Ruizes or Joshuas.

[hugh grant]

Andy ruiz hits harder than wilder. Who has wilder stopped?
Wilder needs to get in ring with someone who hits harder. Ruiz only needs to be perfect for 2 seconds v wilder

[Guest]

OK, everyone is allowed to have opinions. I base mine on reality -- Kownacki, as you said, is easy to hit. He was hit strongly by series from Washington (end of 1st round), Martin (the last round),etc and HE WASN'T EVEN ROCKED. He wouldn't even be down after this Wilder's right which KOd old Ortiz.
We shall live, we shall see. The problem for Kownacki is that he must wait double or triple time for a belt fight comparing to lesser fighters because he's from Poland. I believe that he will be given the IBF chance, destroys Pulev easily and will become a real contender for Wilders, Ruizes or Joshuas.

I don't know about that. It looks like a European soccer game when Polish fighters fight here in Chicago or in places like New Jersey.

Promoters here love Polish fighters because they bring big big crowds. Adamek did a ton, even Golota back in the day sold out the United Center where the Chicago Bulls play.

I definitely don't think it's because he's Polish.

[PRINCEKOOL]

David Tua in my opinion hit harder with more shots 'Tua was some fighter, immense'

[Dariusz]

Well lets just agree to disagree like you said because imo neither Parker(who has still not beat a top 10 contender)or Ruiz are in Ortiz's league at least before he was KOed a 2nd time. Kownacki has not fought a top 10 guy either, and from the eye test he looks like a bottom top 10 at best. He may have a good chin though, but he gets hit like Ortiz did he goes to sleep too imo. Too sqaure

P.S.
Kownacki and Wilder share two opponents: Szpilka and Washington. No matter that they are weak. In both fights, Kownacki destroyed them much earlier and much easier.

[Dariusz]

I don't know about that. It looks like a European soccer game when Polish fighters fight here in Chicago or in places like New Jersey.

Promoters here love Polish fighters because they bring big big crowds. Adamek did a ton, even Golota back in the day sold out the United Center where the Chicago Bulls play.

I definitely don't think it's because he's Polish.

OK, so let's see how soon Kownacki is going to have a belt chance. He's the only one in top 10 who won all his battles.

[Guest]

OK, so let's see how soon Kownacki is going to have a belt chance. He's the only one in top 10 who won all his battles.

I can't remember but was he offered Joshua or was it just Ortiz after Miller got busted for drugs?

[Dariusz]

I can't remember but was he offered Joshua or was it just Ortiz after Miller got busted for drugs?

Joshua, and prolly because he was a friend of Jarred. But why should he accept it against his training and life plan ? Offer him a fair battle, he will come and win. Simple as that.

[Guest]

Joshua, and prolly because he was a friend of Jarred. But why should he accept it against his training and life plan ? Offer him a fair battle, he will come and win. Simple as that.

That's exactly what Ruiz did.