Historian Monte Cox: Floyd no top 10 welter. No ATG.

[BoZz]

Yea I'm sure he's seen a lot of fights from Ted 'the kid' Lewis lol...I don't know who the hell that ****s guy is but I guess in today's world as soon as you have "historian" "doctor" etc in front of your name you must be a smart guy who knows his stuff lol. It's normal that old geezers like him will defend and think highly of fighters he's watched when he was younger, ted the kid was fighting before he was fkn born so how the hell would he know about him and his qualities as a boxer, most of his fights from what I've read were normal people who used to fight so they could afford dinner.

[djtmal]

Exactly, why not just put Kev's post instead of spamming
"See Kev's posts."
Seems real ****in silly, why bother spamming the same **** over and over if he can't debate for himself.

"Ugh this guy brings up a valid point / wants to argue about Floyd's career, can't do that myself but need to post to make it look like I have some kind of impact or am somehow a figure here, let's direct them to Kev's posts without quoting or linking people too them, that way I don't need to have an argument with someone I may lose and I still made myself known. Hopefully they can't be bothered looking for Kev' post either which is why I didn't link or quote him."

Seems kinda ****in silly and not worth ya time, people come on this forum to talk and debate boxing.

Edit: Although I've only just started posting again on this acc, NSB was always a ****hole and these days it seems History Section isn't exactly the same as it was back in the day, is it standard now to post just to try and get someone else to argue for you ?.

He gets mad; turns into a crybaby when nobody accepts his excuses as facts.

Has a ready made excuse for everybody that Floyd fought late, or not at all. Nobody is that squeaky clean and above that, nobody really cares when all is said and done. He seems to feel that Floyd is being treated soo unfairly. Give him a tissue

[Death_Adder]

Gayweather cherry picked, ducked and dodged all every good opponent past the Castillo loss. His career is a joke. No way is he an ATG, especially at WW.


Went on that 3 year run past the Castillo loss and fought Sosa through Mitchell
Margarito punked his ass, and fought Baldomir instead
Afraid of Pacquiao
Ducked Paul Williams
Fought a past his prime Mosley

[djtmal]

Gayweather cherry picked, ducked and dodged all every good opponent past the Castillo loss. His career is a joke. No way is he an ATG, especially at WW.


Went on that 3 year run past the Castillo loss and fought Sosa through Mitchell of the world
Margarito punked his ass, and fought Baldomir instead
Afraid of Pacquiao
Ducked Paul Williams
Fought a past his prime Mosley

At ww, outside of Hatton, he was content to allow other guys be the first to hand the better fighters that L, and nobody is giving him a ton of credit for beating an already raked through the coals fighter.

That's why he isn't a consensus top 5 atg at ww, or overall. It was more important for him to pick who, when and where he fights and all the terms had to be in his favor. Doesn't work that way.

[hugh grant]

Whoever said or thought he was top 10 ATG WW anyway? Seriously.

[FredRekk]

He’s not at all

[The Big Dunn]

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Lol.

This guy is funny.

50,000 plus posts and I am the troll. Lmao.

See Kev's posts is Dunnspeak for I can't create more excuses right now.

Even if all your excuses were to stick for Floyd, it still doesn't put him in the top spot on a majority of these experts all time great lists for the same reasons his arm chair critics have for him, and there isn't anything you can do or say that's going to change that.

Kevs posts address the inconsistencies in the analysis Cox made. That is why I posted see kevs posts. That and you are a liar and troll that I didn’t want to waste anymore time with.

As for rankings, he is always ahead of Manny in every poll of historians, #1 on ESPN top 25 of the last 25 years, #1 p4p in boxrec, and in the thread created by poster Chrismart, he is #12.

As usual you lie about something involving Floyd. Try the truth sometime.

[Death_Adder]

At ww, outside of Hatton, he was content to allow other guys be the first to hand the better fighters that L, and nobody is giving him a ton of credit for beating an already raked through the coals fighter.

That's why he isn't a consensus top 5 atg at ww, or overall. It was more important for him to pick who, when and where he fights and all the terms had to be in his favor. Doesn't work that way.

Agreed. Even with Hatton, Pacquiao beat him way worse than Gay.

In fact Pac beat Hatton, Cotto, and De La Hoya way better and more decisively than Gayweather.

[djtmal]

Kevs posts address the inconsistencies in the analysis Cox made. That is why I posted see kevs posts. That and you are a liar and troll that I didn’t want to waste anymore time with.

As for rankings, he is always ahead of Manny in every poll of historians, #1 on ESPN top 25 of the last 25 years, #1 p4p in boxrec, and in the thread created by poster Chrismart, he is #12.

As usual you lie about something involving Floyd. Try the truth sometime.

So what pray tell does Kev's posts reveal about the historian's inconsistencies? That it's the other guys fault that Floyd doesn't have any wins over any top ww atg in their prime? Nobody cares about that but a Floyd Boy. Everybody else just accepts it for what it is and moves on. They don't throw tantrums and start name calling.

According to Monte Cox, who is a noteworthy boxing historian apparently, Floyd doesn't crack the top 10 ww's all-time. Keeping it a buck you guys can't handle that.

It just doesn't sink in to you Floyd Boys that Floyd is the only fighter who they do this for. They don't do it for the Sugars, or Ali, or Pernell, or Holy, Roy, or even Oscar. Only Floyd the critics say the same thing consistently and you dudes are still in denial.

[hugh grant]

He’s not at all

Hes not even an top ten ATG, so how on earth is he going to be a top ten WW? He might be a top 10 in one of the weight classes he was in. Maybe featherweight or something like that. But do people realize how strong the WW division has been over the years? Its stacked.