Comments Thread For: Wilder Shoots Down Idea of Being Named WBC Franchise Champ

[Jkp]

I see... so if they just keep skipping over White and continue to make him fight more and more guys he'll wait another 2 years and never get Mandatory. Wilder gets a pass and he can rematch again, it's like having an uncle in the WBC.

No. He needs to fight the mandatory eliminator fight to become the mandatory. VERY VERY SIMPLE.

He keeps ducking these fights then complains loudly.
He ducked Ortiz and fought midget nobody Rivas instead.
He ducked guaranteed title shots at AJ twice this year alone.

[REDEEMER]

Stiverne was his 1st mando that he actually fought and for good reason,that fight was so bad i think Showtime was refusing to air it and he had to pretend to want the Ortiz fight , but Stivernes not his second it was his FIRST mando so that further reinforces this habitual liars stance that he doesn't really fight relevant ones anyway and only ****** people think hes some sort of hero of boxing when he just declined 100 million to fight the guy everyone wanted to see, bunch of morons on here for real. lol

True Stiverne was his first mandatory he fought. What a joke .

[Jkp]

I think White has been fighting a long time to get Wilder. He had the courage to fight AJ, something Ortiz wouldn't do for a career high payday. White truly believes he's better than Wilder.

He ducked AJ twice this year. FACT.
Signed contract was given to him by Eddy at least twice. Eddy is his promoter too.
3 belts on offer and he still ran like a scared loud mouth he is.

[ImperialWrath]

White was Mandatory long before Brezeale but I get what you're saying.

No, he wasn't. To become mandatory, you have to fight a final eliminator. Whyte didn't do that until his last fight when he fought Oscar Rivas. Being a top-ranked contender is NOT the same as being a mandatory challenger.

I think White has been fighting a long time to get Wilder. He had the courage to fight AJ, something Ortiz wouldn't do for a career high payday. White truly believes he's better than Wilder.

It doesn't matter what you think Whyte has been doing. What matters are the facts. And the facts are Whyte was ordered to fight Ortiz in a final eliminator to become mandatory for Wilder, but he turned it down because Breazeale was already the mandatory challenger. Makes sense, but when Breazeale got wind of Whyte talking **** about his mandatory position and offered to put his position on the line against Whyte, but Whyte didn't take that fight either, opting to fight Chisora a 2nd time for money. This is all documented fact. If Whyte really thinks he's better than Wilder, then why avoid/turn down so many opportunities? He could've already had his shot at Wilder if he had accepted Brazeale's challenge and beaten him, or taken the WBC's order to fight Ortiz.

Nevermind the failed drug test issue, which STILL hasn't been cleared up til this day.

Mandatory or not, I can't believe Whyte is still being brought up like he deserves any respect or credibility after the positive test situation... aka the curious case of Benjamin b sample

Exactly.

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No, he wasn't. To become mandatory, you have to fight a final eliminator. Whyte didn't do that until his last fight when he fought Oscar Rivas. Being a top-ranked contender is NOT the same as being a mandatory challenger.



It doesn't matter what you think Whyte has been doing. What matters are the facts. And the facts are Whyte was ordered to fight Ortiz in a final eliminator to become mandatory for Wilder, but he turned it down because Breazeale was already the mandatory challenger. Makes sense, but when Breazeale got wind of Whyte talking **** about his mandatory position and offered to put his position on the line against Whyte, but Whyte didn't take that fight either, opting to fight Chisora a 2nd time for money. This is all documented fact. If Whyte really thinks he's better than Wilder, then why avoid/turn down so many opportunities? He could've already had his shot at Wilder if he had accepted Brazeale's challenge and beaten him, or taken the WBC's order to fight Ortiz.

Nevermind the failed drug test issue, which STILL hasn't been cleared up til this day.



Exactly.

Ortiz turned down a Wembley main event date on July 28th to fight whyte on a huge PPV event saying he needed more time ,Ortiz fought on the same day vs cojanu and Parker took the offer from Matchroom. This is also documented. Ha

[PredatorStyle]

"In the case of Ukraine’s Lomachenko (14-1, 10KOs), promotional outfit Top Rank Inc. specifically petitioned the WBC to bestow the Franchise title status upon the two-time Olympic Gold medalist and reigning three-belt lightweight titlist. "

That says it all.

The irony is that if you want to be franchise champ so you can avoid fighting certain people, then you really shouldn't get to be champion at all.

I hate the system as it is. All the best should fight to see who is best and the best should be champion.

Loma hasn't and probably won't do that.

[uppercut510]

Two reasons.

The most common one being that they are biased and more fan of a promoter, fighter, or nationality; and most likely Wilder's not a part of 'Their Group' or his actions wen counter to 'Their Group'.

The less common, and somewhat understandable one, is they recognize with the plethora of belts and sanctioning organizations one could avoid the top competition by sticking to their mandatories. For example- neither Ruiz or Joshua are in the top 15 in WBC rankings but I doubt anyone here thinks that there are 15 heavyweights better than them. Since boxing is so fractured one could feasibly get an easier path by sticking to his mandatories.

Now I am not writing Wilder fits into the second category, and I do applaud the principles of defending your belt as he is doing. But with so many sanctioning bodies out there, this ideal doesn't always play out as it should (as it would if there were only 1 belt).

The business of boxing further ruining the sport of boxing.

thanks for the insight, i can definitely see the perspective

[juggernaut666]

Actually Povetkin was his first Mando. Then Stiverne, then Breazeale, now it was Whyte. So he’s had Four technically.

He never fought Povetkin and avoided him ,he was cleared to fight and won that court case . Technically theres a lot of things we can bring up about Wilder but its all the same old same old of a character who lies and frauds his way to being known using someones name to do it.

It took him technically about 2 years to fight his mando and that guy wasn't even an active fighter ( Technically ) who he got the title from in the first place . lol

[uppercut510]

where is dillian whytes b sample??? Why isnt he speaking on it??? What the fk is going on???

[juggernaut666]

I make wilder right , last time I looked a world champion defends against the best possible contender when available. Your a world because you fight the next best available to challenge ..I don't count ****ty pointless paper titles outside the top 4 .

Joshua was available but he fights Ortiz who didn't pass his physical in last years fight. Wilder fights the best possible contenders doe even when winning the title had no intentions of getting near Klitchko ? lol

What was the best concerning Washington ,Szpilka and Arreola with no wins for years ? Stop it, Wilder is sitting on ONE title ,being a franchise champion would have zero effect on him see my initial posts above.. lol