NSB: Do you understand now why Carnelo is #1 P4P? DO YOU?

[yankees7448]

This is literally the definition of "hater".

This kid complains that Canelo moved up two weight classes to "fight the weakest champion" who by the way is a Hall of Famer..and coming off back to back wins against undefeated LHW fighters

When call out someone who ducked younger and less shopworn fighters to face someone has lost 3 of their last 7 including 2 KOs you get called a hater. Gotcha.

[LetOutTheCage]

P4P cheat definitely

[yankees7448]

He chose a CHAMPION over a non champion.

He chose the shell of Kovalev over younger and more dangerous opponents.

Once again, we need to STOP with this nonsense. I said it before. This is a BUSINESS. A NAME is a NAME. That's all that matters. Not you elitists who just want guys to fight the latest 'eye test' that shows up.

Its a business move not about chasing greatness. Can't have things both ways.

He fought, and is fighting, the right NAMES at the right time - his prime. As a result his resume won't be surpassed in the near future. Which is as it should be.

Feasting on paper champions is not how things should be.

[Combat Talk Radio]

He chose the shell of Kovalev over younger and more dangerous opponents.
Its a business move not about chasing greatness. Can't have things both ways.


Feasting on paper champions is not how things should be.

For someone who has both Floyd AND Canelo in his sig, I struggle to understand how you fail to understand that this is a BUSINESS. "Dare to be great" didn't do jack for anyone. Ask Mikey.

I also find it funny you make the statement in bold yet likely have Crawford at #1 - the poster child for "paper" wins.

"At the end of the day", the best boxers go for NAMES. You beat a name, that's all that matters. Or did you not watch Jones/Green?

[Combat Talk Radio]

You cannot go by just the resume. You also have to go by how they won (or lost), controversies, skillsets etc. Otherwise lets throw Jean Pascal on the list also. His resume of opponents is super impressive.

His resume of WINS is not. Not compared to the Carne Champion it isn't. That's the point - who did you BEAT? That's all that matters. And people need to start understanding this.

Once you reconcile this simple fact you start to understand why there's no chance in hell that Crawford is #1, why Loma is rated higher than Crawford, and why Carnelo MUST be #1. Because NOBODY on Loma or Crawford or Spence's resume - COMBINED - can touch Carnelo's opposition.

[ruedboy]

How does beating a faded fighter add to a fighter's legacy? You casuals kill me.
How hard is it to understand that being a top fighter at some point in your career doesn't translate into being a top guy your whole career.
It's so obvious, why does anybody even have to bring it up?

[ruedboy]

So the name on the resume is all that matters, not the fighter's age or what weight he was best at etc.
I guess that's 1 way of looking at it but that way don't seem to have any knowledge of the sport behind it.

[Boxing_1013]

So the name on the resume is all that matters, not the fighter's age or what weight he was best at etc.
I guess that's 1 way of looking at it but that way don't seem to have any knowledge of the sport behind it.

Right...I don't understand that logic lol

[Alan Smithee]

When call out someone who ducked younger and less shopworn fighters to face someone has lost 3 of their last 7 including 2 KOs you get called a hater. Gotcha.

Unfortunately that is the nature of sport's forums. I am not a Canelo hater but a Bivol win would have been more impressive. The fight was offered and Canelo politely declined. It was a smart business decision to fight Kovalev but should it enhance his resume much? Kovalev barely beat a fatigued, inexperienced Yarde and then took this fight on a short layoff. The K.O was impressive but Canelo didn't look very scintillating except for the 11th round. No hating just stating facts! IMHO pound for pound lists are nonsense! Is Canelo the most exciting current fighter? Where is that list?

[kidbazooka]

Any so called media experts that DONT have Canelo at #1 should be banned from boxing.