For those who question who Ortiz has beaten...

[Dariusz]

Why did Povetkin get two shots at the title?

Why was Parker-Ruiz for the WBO?

Why was Charles Martin IBF champion?

Why did Dominic Brezeale get two shots at the title?

Why is Pulev a mandatory?

Why is Whyte a mandatory?

Why did Andy Ruiz get two title shots?

Why did Bermane Stiverne get two shots at a title?

Why was Stiverne-Arreola a title fight?

Great questions.

[Vegemil]

Ortiz is better than his resume suggests. These people won't give him credit since Wilder beat him.

Let's not act like Povetkin didn't beat quality guys though, Rahman, Byrd, Chagiev. Parker beat Ruiz. No reason to combat ******ity with ******ity.

Ortiz has a skillset but he's old now. I don't think he's a very good fighter at his current state.

[Mammoth]

Ortiz has a skillset but he's old now. I don't think he's a very good fighter at his current state.

He's still alright. Age definitely a factor, especially going in to this rematch. He didn't look good against Hammer but nobody really does.

[Dariusz]

He's still alright. Age definitely a factor, especially going in to this rematch. He didn't look good against Hammer but nobody really does.

Not everybody is like Big George. Ortiz certainly isn't.

[Laligalaliga]

agreed yet ortiz still gets the boogeyman tag

Yeah....ran under the rock when 7mil came calling.....
Hahahahaha

[Laligalaliga]

Who did Joshua beat?

AJ is still the king pin of HW. You can't compare his winnings to wilder.
Its a slope kind of comparison.

[ShaneMosleySr]

You realize he didn’t take that offer because he’s making $7 million to fight Wilder, that fight had already been agreed to and he would have a full training camp instead being a last minute replacement, right?

Yeah....ran under the rock when 7mil came calling.....
Hahahahaha

[ShaneMosleySr]

But who did he beat?

AJ is still the king pin of HW. You can't compare his winnings to wilder.
Its a slope kind of comparison.

[Redsox]

[QUOTE=Mammoth;20144209]Ortiz is better than his resume suggests. These people won't give him credit since Wilder beat him.

Let's not act like Povetkin didn't beat quality guys though, Rahman, Byrd, Chagiev. Parker beat Ruiz. No reason to combat ******ity with ******ity.[/QU
those arent very impressive wins because of when they happened.

[Laligalaliga]

You realize he didn’t take that offer because he’s making $7 million to fight Wilder, that fight had already been agreed to and he would have a full training camp instead being a last minute replacement, right?

Hahaha hahaha......... First of all, let's ask if wilder is making 7mil. Were you under the rock with Ortiz where uncle Al offered him a 7mil contract. Don't make yourself look ****** on this site.
Ortiz ain't getting anything close to half of 7mil.
Not having a full camp is a decent excuse wilder fan Boys use. I can't remember Ruiz having a full camp.