For those who question who Ortiz has beaten...

[MrBillion]

yes Ortiz is a key pawn in the Haymon media manipulation operation. Haymon needs Ortiz to make Wilder look good. Ortiz is about 55 years old, draws nothing and has no future as a money maker and thus can never be allowed to be champ. Haymon hires Ortiz to take dives for Wilder.

Then the Haymon sheep media parrot their scripted lines that Ortiz is some kind of hwt terror.

Ortiz was exposed as a fraud when he ducked Joshua for $15m. Haymon refused to do that fight because he knew AJ would KO Ortiz easily and that would discredit Wilder. Haymon needs Ortiz to dive a second time vs Wilder so the Haymon sheep media can then say how great Wilder is. As Wilder keeps ducking AJ and Fury rematch and Usyk and Whyte.

Bottom line is Wilder is a complete fraud hoax pretender with nothing but fake knockouts. Everybody loses to Wilder on purpose because Haymon is the key asset in Haymon's failing empire which has already lost over $500m.

He didn't duck AJ! His team was greedy and lost at the end

[Marchegiano]

Correct me if i'm mistaken but wasn't Ortiz at one point or another scheduled to fight Takam, Ustinov, Povetkin, and Joshua? All that fell apart and Wilder had no one so they fought one another, no?

[ShaneMosleySr]

Lomachenko, Crawford, Inoue and a few others who haven’t proven to me that they’re not good yet like Andrade and Bivol.

I prepare guys being realistic in their opinion. You can't **** everyone around like you can box yourself.
If all these guys are ****, who else is remaining as a boxer?

[ShaneMosleySr]

That’s not even true because he’s making more to fight Wilder than Joshua offered.

He didn't duck AJ! His team was greedy and lost at the end

[Monzon99]

If you didn't realize that Haymon blocked Ortiz from being KOed by Joshua in order to preserve the Ortiz corpse to dive again for Wilder, go back to sleep.

Ortiz at this point is nothing but a pawn for Haymon, being used to upvalue Wilder who is a total fraud pretender WWF hoax.

[Monzon99]

wilder came up with the 50 mil for AJ...for a megafight...he wasnt about to pay 6 mil to charles martin for some useless belt he didnt need and is actually owned by andy ruiz now lol

wilder vs martin isnt a megafight....martin vs nobody is a megafight or even worth 6 mil for martin....yet these dumb brits are still running around this thread jerking each others micropeens

The $50m was a fraud bluff fake offer. If Haymon and FInkel really meant it they would have met with Hearn to discuss the details face to face in NYC.

And they would have offered it again. They never offered it again. Why not? It was a fraud PR bluff.

[ShaneMosleySr]

This would mean more to me if a Haymon fighter who wasn’t ranked in anyone’s top 10 didn’t go knock Joshua out.

If you didn't realize that Haymon blocked Ortiz from being KOed by Joshua in order to preserve the Ortiz corpse to dive again for Wilder, go back to sleep.

Ortiz at this point is nothing but a pawn for Haymon, being used to upvalue Wilder who is a total fraud pretender WWF hoax.

[ShaneMosleySr]

Maybe they didn’t offer again because the offer was turned down.

The $50m was a fraud bluff fake offer. If Haymon and FInkel really meant it they would have met with Hearn to discuss the details face to face in NYC.

And they would have offered it again. They never offered it again. Why not? It was a fraud PR bluff.

[just the facts]

Hope Ortiz can pull off a somewhat big upset at this time but other then a wilder win theres not much to talk about with Ortiz ,he will go back to fighting no hopers after November and he will still be the boogeyman for wilder fans ,to bad hes not fighting this week for Halloween . Ha

What's with your negative obsession with Wilder? Anti American agenda? Racism? What?

[just the facts]

yes Ortiz is a key pawn in the Haymon media manipulation operation. Haymon needs Ortiz to make Wilder look good. Ortiz is about 55 years old, draws nothing and has no future as a money maker and thus can never be allowed to be champ. Haymon hires Ortiz to take dives for Wilder.

Then the Haymon sheep media parrot their scripted lines that Ortiz is some kind of hwt terror.

Ortiz was exposed as a fraud when he ducked Joshua for $15m. Haymon refused to do that fight because he knew AJ would KO Ortiz easily and that would discredit Wilder. Haymon needs Ortiz to dive a second time vs Wilder so the Haymon sheep media can then say how great Wilder is. As Wilder keeps ducking AJ and Fury rematch and Usyk and Whyte.

Bottom line is Wilder is a complete fraud hoax pretender with nothing but fake knockouts. Everybody loses to Wilder on purpose because Haymon is the key asset in Haymon's failing empire which has already lost over $500m.

You have to be the biggest douche bag poster I've ever seen on NSB and that's saying a helluva lot. Not one true statement in your entire post. You can't really be this ignorant.