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  • REDEEMER
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    #61
    Hope Ortiz can pull off a somewhat big upset at this time but other then a wilder win theres not much to talk about with Ortiz ,he will go back to fighting no hopers after November and he will still be the boogeyman for wilder fans ,to bad hes not fighting this week for Halloween . Ha

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    • Laligalaliga
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      #62
      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
      So far I have Chris Byrd, Hasim Rahman and Chagaev, all right before they retired and lost to guys who have record label of 4-3 and 18-9.

      I have Parker, who’s never beaten anyone,Ruiz whos never beaten anyone and Joshua whos never beaten anyone.

      Did I miss anyone?
      Lol.....I believe Wilder fight guys ranked close to 100 and above 100 is the guy that is beating the guys in HW.
      In 22 fights AJ has fought wlad, white, parker, breazeale, takam, martin and many more.
      I should be asking you who has wilder beating?

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        #63
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Povetkin only had 14 fights by 2007 how could he duck Wlad ,what are you talking about again ? Ha
        What does 07 have to do with 08? I said in 08...it's pretty damn clear.

        A few months after Wlad won the IBF at the end 07 Povetkin fought Chambers in early 08 for an IBF Elim. Pov won but never fought IBF champion Wlad. Pov claimed injury then ducked out of the fight all together.

        From there on he kept his ranking by fighting leftovers before they were totally out of the ranks.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Marchegiano
          What does 07 have to do with 08? I said in 08...it's pretty damn clear.

          A few months after Wlad won the IBF at the end 07 Povetkin fought Chambers in early 08 for an IBF Elim. Pov won but never fought IBF champion Wlad. Pov claimed injury then ducked out of the fight all together.

          From there on he kept his ranking by fighting leftovers before they were totally out of the ranks.
          It has everything to do with it because Povetkin would have had to fight Wlad with only doing 14 fights going into 08 you weirdo. Ha

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            #65
            Wladimir Klitschko was 41, so he sucks. I’m just using the “age rule” everyone uses to dismiss Ortiz.

            Whyte hasn’t beaten anyone. His best win is Parker, who also hasn’t beaten anyone because his best win is Ruiz. Ruiz beat Joshua but that just disqualifies Joshua from being good and doesn’t legitimize Ruiz.

            I’m using the “Ortiz and Wilder both suck no matter the outcome” rule on that one.

            Brezeale isn’t good, he hasn’t beaten anyone. I’m using the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule to determine that one.

            Carlos Takam isn’t good. He was 37 when he fought AJ. That’s the “age rule” again. He also lost to a guy who lost to a Deontay Wilder opponent. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule again.

            Charles Martin isn’t good, he fought to a draw with someone Deontay Wilder knocked out. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule.

            Povetkin is the “age rule”

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            Originally posted by Laligalaliga
            Lol.....I believe Wilder fight guys ranked close to 100 and above 100 is the guy that is beating the guys in HW.
            In 22 fights AJ has fought wlad, white, parker, breazeale, takam, martin and many more.
            I should be asking you who has wilder beating?

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            • Laligalaliga
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              #66
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              Wladimir Klitschko was 41, so he sucks. I’m just using the “age rule” everyone uses to dismiss Ortiz.

              Whyte hasn’t beaten anyone. His best win is Parker, who also hasn’t beaten anyone because his best win is Ruiz. Ruiz beat Joshua but that just disqualifies Joshua from being good and doesn’t legitimize Ruiz.

              I’m using the “Ortiz and Wilder both suck no matter the outcome” rule on that one.

              Brezeale isn’t good, he hasn’t beaten anyone. I’m using the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule to determine that one.

              Carlos Takam isn’t good. He was 37 when he fought AJ. That’s the “age rule” again. He also lost to a guy who lost to a Deontay Wilder opponent. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule again.

              Charles Martin isn’t good, he fought to a draw with someone Deontay Wilder knocked out. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule.

              Povetkin is the “age rule”

              Did I miss anyone?
              Wilder would fight wlad even if he was 61.
              Wlad was a serial champ. Wilder didnt want that work...finkel said he was still a baby champ.

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                #67
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                It has everything to do with it because Povetkin would have had to fight Wlad with only doing 14 fights going into 08 you weirdo. Ha
                Goddamn son, the **** is your point? I'm waiting for you to contradict his having 4 chances to fight for the title.

                You just want to make excuses for Pov?

                The **** is wrong with you?

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                • ShaneMosleySr
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                  #68
                  Oh he never should have fought Klitschko when that fight was being discussed. He would’ve gotten killed.

                  He also shouldn’t have ever held the wbc title. What a joke that the wbc picked Stiverne as champion over klitschko. A joke.

                  But at 41, Klitschko probably loses to Wilder.

                  Originally posted by Laligalaliga
                  Wilder would fight wlad even if he was 61.
                  Wlad was a serial champ. Wilder didnt want that work...finkel said he was still a baby champ.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                    Wladimir Klitschko was 41, so he sucks. I’m just using the “age rule” everyone uses to dismiss Ortiz.

                    Whyte hasn’t beaten anyone. His best win is Parker, who also hasn’t beaten anyone because his best win is Ruiz. Ruiz beat Joshua but that just disqualifies Joshua from being good and doesn’t legitimize Ruiz.

                    I’m using the “Ortiz and Wilder both suck no matter the outcome” rule on that one.

                    Brezeale isn’t good, he hasn’t beaten anyone. I’m using the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule to determine that one.

                    Carlos Takam isn’t good. He was 37 when he fought AJ. That’s the “age rule” again. He also lost to a guy who lost to a Deontay Wilder opponent. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule again.

                    Charles Martin isn’t good, he fought to a draw with someone Deontay Wilder knocked out. That’s the “All Deontay Wilder opponents suck” rule.

                    Povetkin is the “age rule”

                    Did I miss anyone?
                    Lol....... White has better wind than wilder all his career fight.
                    Chisora X2. parker, Rivas..... Wilder fought guys ranked 100+ all his career.
                    Take your L like a man and move on.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                      Oh he never should have fought Klitschko when that fight was being discussed. He would’ve gotten killed.

                      He also shouldn’t have ever held the wbc title. What a joke that the wbc picked Stiverne as champion over klitschko. A joke.

                      But at 41, Klitschko probably loses to Wilder.
                      Wilder was still been breast needed by finkel..... He ran very far from wlad but a young man with the heart of a lion with 19 fights to his belt that by today's standard is still considered a prospect went in there and conquered while the baby champ was hiding behind his mothers breast.

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