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  • #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Lies again. I gave Manny complete credit, as did most of the well known Floyd fans. Only when the unreasonable slurp threads from the dipsh-t diehards came out did posters bring up Thurman's injury and Lopez. The RBR thread will prove this.

    I never posted everyone avoided him until he got big. Yes, that is what happened with winky.

    You aren't seriously equating beating Thurman in 2019 with beating Winky Wright at 154 back then?

    I never posted he wouldn't get any credit. I posted the amount will be determined by where Spence is. That is completely reasonable given the fact he refused to fight him before the accident.
    Refused to fight him? Those two actually sat down?

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    • #72
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      No I am not more qualified than doctors. I just have seen things happen. Take for instance Manny in 2012..

      He was checked out by the ringside physician and doctors in the hospital after his fight and the cut he didn't need to have the wound stitched anymore after his Nov 2011 fight with JMM. Bob Arum in a news conference said Manny was ready to fight in May. Hearing this, the judge in Floyd's DV cases postponed sentencing until after May so presumably they could fight before Floyd went to jail.

      Once that announcement was made, Manny suddenly needed to get plastic surgery for the wound which prevented him from being ready in May. This was months after his doctor didn't see a need for any further stitches. So Floyd fought Miguel Cotto.

      This is just one example and maybe an anomaly but It is very plausible that Spence could have some complications that arise well after the accident. Unless of course you think Manny and Bob faked this and Bob got his son in law to give him the stitches just to avoid fighting Floyd, but that is another discussion.

      I was ok if Spence/Manny unification was next. Manny refused to do so. If Manny were to change his mind, I would say Spence should fight Danny in January then Manny in May.

      Sounds as you rate Manny very highly even at 42

      Who would you have as favorite if Manny fought Spence?

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      • #73
        These Pac haters so full of excuses. There's no point Pac fighting spence.
        Most would have given Floyd credit just for fighting thurman or spence. But he ducked both.
        Just like people give floyd credit for actually fighting nelo. Won't give floyd credit for a great win though as it was a cw.
        Credit for floyd for winning and keeping unbeaten record with the cw. But don't then say it was a great win. I'm glad it was a cw, that way we got to see the fight. Without it there be no fight. But don't expect me to say it's a great win. It wasn't. A great performance, yes, but not great win.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 10-18-2019, 07:32 PM.

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        • #74
          [QUOTE=The Big Dunn;20131124]Lies again. I gave Manny complete credit, as did most of the well known Floyd fans. Only when the unreasonable slurp threads from the dipsh-t diehards came out did posters bring up Thurman's injury and Lopez. The RBR thread will prove this.

          So keep giving him complete credit without sliding in your bs.

          I never posted everyone avoided him until he got big. Yes, that is what happened with winky.

          You said every big name and that was Oscar. And every guy including Floyd was calling for a fight. Floyd earned his shot eventually what you crying about. Guys like Hagler and Hopkins went almost a whole career waiting to get big money fights.

          You aren't seriously equating beating Thurman in 2019 with beating Winky Wright at 154 back then?

          You aren't equating Floyd actually backing out of negotiations with Winky Wright and Margarito to Spence and Manny? Wasn't nothing there imo that was just you pushing for Manny to get slaughtered. Floyd "retired" when these young guns came a gunnin'. Just like he did when Cotto and those guys were ready.

          What incentive does a top fighter like Manny have to fight Spence when he was nobody. In the Floyd marinating era of fights, now is the time if he is going to maximize the fights potential.

          I never posted he wouldn't get any credit. I posted the amount will be determined by where Spence is. That is completely reasonable given the fact he refused to fight him before the accident.

          Where Spence is? Where Spence is? Ha. Spence is the top guy right now imo and if he signs on to fight Manny much respect as he should be acknowledged as taking a risk as Thurman did. Something we kept asking your boy Floyd to do, but he was more interested in doing the opposite of what the public wanted. But he made a lot of money doe.

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          • #75
            Once manny dominates spence haters will say, spence is shot or manny is roiding back again.

            Before the thurman fight: Thurman is going to retire pacquiao for good.

            After the thurman fight : Thurman is damaged goods anyway didn't looked good on his last fight.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              Sounds as you rate Manny very highly even at 42

              Who would you have as favorite if Manny fought Spence?
              You are interpreting the post incorrectly.

              I am not rating Manny highly. I am giving you an example of how complications from an injury can suddenly come up down the road.

              This thread is just sad. If you can deny other fighters credit than fellow posters can do the same to manny and you really have nothing to complain about.

              Instead of making threads like this, how about not being the type of sh-t poster that can’t give credit where it’s due.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                You accept those excuses not me, and because you love to excuse him for it, Floyd gets very little to no credit for the best guys on his resume. He was able to drag ass making the fights people really wanted to see because you would have the excuses ready for anybody who wasn't buying it.

                Listen to this guy.

                Biggest hypocrite on this site talking about giving or not giving a guy way out of his prime, now actually fighting this current crop of good talent at ww and holding his own, some credit.

                So where is Floyd when we have all this talent in the ww division? Probably somewhere putting together his next low risk high reward venture maybe?
                I think everyone here knows that big dunn is the biggest hypocrite when it comes to pac that's why i don't take his word seriously..

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You are interpreting the post incorrectly.

                  I am not rating Manny highly. I am giving you an example of how complications from an injury can suddenly come up down the road.

                  This thread is just sad. If you can deny other fighters credit than fellow posters can do the same to manny and you really have nothing to complain about.

                  Instead of making threads like this, how about not being the type of sh-t poster that can’t give credit where it’s due.

                  You must think Manny is better than Garcia, why else would your prefer to see that fight?

                  You also must think Spence is really affected at all because you want the same fights to happen before his accident as after it.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by pasawayako View Post
                    I think everyone here knows that big dunn is the biggest hypocrite when it comes to pac that's why i don't take his word seriously..
                    Oh yeah. He is definitely a piece of work

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                      Oh yeah. He is definitely a piece of work
                      Should change his name to
                      The Big Dumb

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