Will Pacquiao get full credit when he beats Spence?

[The Big Dunn]

So if you give Manny full credit for beating Thurman, any of your afterthought bogus facts that you are trying to subliminally use as an Thurman excuse to the contrary is bogus.

Just like you claim truth that Shane and Oscar refused to fight Floyd, Floyd refused to fight Winky Wright and Margarito. He refused to see Thurman when Thurman called him out plenty of times. Same thing with Khan when Khan won a poll. See how that hypocritical mind of yours works?

That being said, if Manny fights and beats Spence right now he'd get full credit for beating a prime undefeated ww that is recognized as the guy to beat right now, and any excuse you try to pull up will fall on deaf ears.

It actually takes tons of play away from Floyd because he wants to make nothing but no risk fights.

I am not a rap artist so I am not trying to subliminally diss anyone. You are having a difficult time with the truth because to you the truth puts the fight in its actual context. Sorry dude but the truth is the truth. Grow up and learn how to handle it the same way you expect others to do.

Yes, Floyd didn't go to 154 and fight Winky. He fought for the lineal ww title instead of fighting Margs, something anyone with an ounce of integrity and common sense would understand.

You are equating 2 guys not willing to bring Floyd up to 147 when he never fought there, with Floyd not going to 154 and Floyd choosing the lineal WW champ over the WBO champ in 2006. Ok, I am fine with that because if this was anyone other than Floyd you wouldn't use this a s a criticism.

As for hypocritical, when these guys call Floyd out you post as if Floyd is obligated to fight them, yet you don't require the same for anyone that Floyd calls out. I will take this criticism seriously when you hold every fighter to it, not just the guy you don't like.

Manny will get the credit he deserves. If he chooses to fight Spence, fair and unbiased people will remember that he refused to before the accident. Doing this makes Manny look incredibly weak, like he only got courage to say yes because Spence got ****** up.

You will try and make it go away, just like you lied about saying you didn't want the Shane fight. Fair and unbiased people will expose you just like they always have here on NSB.

You may be full of yourself, but that arrogance wilt never erase the truth.

[UNBANNED]

Pacquaio won 114-113

I had Manny 7-5 or 8-4 plus the KD.

Close but clear.

No "edge" besides when Thurman fell off his and onto his ass

[IceTrayDaGang]

Why does someone have to like manny? Is there a rule or something that manny has to be liked by all?

pre-2019

dunn - i dont hate manny, i just dont like his fans.

2019- forward

dunn - i hate manny, so what.

lol

[The Big Dunn]

pre-2019

dunn - i dont hate manny, i just dont like his fans.

2019- forward

dunn - i hate manny, so what.

lol

I asked him a question dude, relax.

[djtmal]

I am not a rap artist so I am not trying to subliminally diss anyone. You are having a difficult time with the truth because to you the truth puts the fight in its actual context. Sorry dude but the truth is the truth. Grow up and learn how to handle it the same way you expect others to do.

Yes, Floyd didn't go to 154 and fight Winky. He fought for the lineal ww title instead of fighting Margs, something anyone with an ounce of integrity and common sense would understand.

You are equating 2 guys not willing to bring Floyd up to 147 when he never fought there, with Floyd not going to 154 and Floyd choosing the lineal WW champ over the WBO champ in 2006. Ok, I am fine with that because if this was anyone other than Floyd you wouldn't use this a s a criticism.

As for hypocritical, when these guys call Floyd out you post as if Floyd is obligated to fight them, yet you don't require the same for anyone that Floyd calls out. I will take this criticism seriously when you hold every fighter to it, not just the guy you don't like.

Manny will get the credit he deserves. If he chooses to fight Spence, fair and unbiased people will remember that he refused to before the accident. Doing this makes Manny look incredibly weak, like he only got courage to say yes because Spence got ****** up.

You will try and make it go away, just like you lied about saying you didn't want the Shane fight. Fair and unbiased people will expose you just like they always have here on NSB.

You may be full of yourself, but that arrogance wilt never erase the truth.

Give it up man. If Manny fights and beats Spence he gets full credit without you throwing in the excuses for Spence losing. You and the haters will will be the only ones making light of the Spence accident.
Real talk .

Spin it any way you want. Floyd refused to fight Winky, Margarito, Khan, Thurman, and a more prime version of Manny. It's enough out there to back that up. You have an excuse for everybody Floyd ducked we know that. Cotto and Paul Williams claim Floyd was avoiding them I posted a direct quote from Cotto, but there's no need to re-hash this. We know everybody avoided Floyd.

Nobody has a problem with the lightweight version of Floyd calling out guys like Shane and Oscar, Shane was chasing Oscar as well and was next in line plus was Oscars boy. So Floyd
had to wait his turn and got it. Did what he had to do, but Floyd's ww run was bogus.

As long as Floyd offered a garbage deal to fight and the opponent turns it down, he's vindicated, or as long as he beat the guy despite being raked through the coals shot, is all that matters in Floyd Boy world. Just so excuse makers like you can say truth or facts. We get it.

Dig under the surface and your truth reads like excuses.

[The Big Dunn]

Give it up man. If Manny fights and beats Spence he gets full credit without you throwing in the excuses for Spence losing. You and the haters will will be the only ones making light of the Spence accident.
Real talk .

Spin it any way you want. Floyd refused to fight Winky, Margarito, Khan, Thurman, and a more prime version of Manny. It's enough out there to back that up. You have an excuse for everybody Floyd ducked we know that. Cotto and Paul Williams claim Floyd was avoiding them I posted a direct quote from Cotto, but there's no need to re-hash this. We know everybody avoided Floyd.

Nobody has a problem with the lightweight version of Floyd calling out guys like Shane and Oscar, Shane was chasing Oscar as well and was next in line plus was Oscars boy. So Floyd
had to wait his turn and got it. Did what he had to do, but Floyd's ww run was bogus.

As long as Floyd offered a garbage deal to fight and the opponent turns it down, he's vindicated, or as long as he beat the guy despite being raked through the coals shot, is all that matters in Floyd Boy world. Just so excuse makers like you can say truth or facts. We get it.

Dig under the surface and your truth reads like excuses.

If that is how you have to rationalize it, go right ahead. Same thing happened after Thurman. Real fans gave Manny credit but also discussed Thurman's injury and how he looked against Lopez. His diehard, immature fans such as yourself took that as some kind of diss when it was never about that. Just fans discussing the actual fight in the actual context it took place.

The truth is not an excuse. You don't like to talk about the truth because it gives context to the lies you constantly tell. I am not afraid of the truth because it doesn't bother me. Floyd was avoided by big names until he became the man, then they all wanted to fight him. Some he fought, Some he didn't, same as every other fighter.

At ww, Floyd fought the lineal champ, the #2 and #3 ranked p4p fighters in the world, JMM at 146 when he was #2 p4p in the world. If that is bogus then literally every ww's run at 147 can be considered bogus.

The truth vindicates everyone. That is the point you don't seem to get. When you said he didn't fight winky and Margs I didn't argue with you, just told the truth. You feel his not fighting them as some kind of major flaw. I see it as they didn't fight, same as any other fighter.

You and others reach for things to criticize Floyd for because he never lost in the ring. Therefore, you have to make him not fighting someone equate to a loss. OK but When you do this the truth makes you look like a petty, immature liar, which is exactly what you've been proven to be by myself and other posters in other threads where you try to defend the lies.

If you had truth on your side you'd simply go with that because there would be nothing I could say to refute it.

[Rhonda Drowsy]

Spence will get floored worst than Thurman. Spence the false will get tko'd like Povetkin-Perez

[djtmal]

If that is how you have to rationalize it, go right ahead. Same thing happened after Thurman. Real fans gave Manny credit but also discussed Thurman's injury and how he looked against Lopez. His diehard, immature fans such as yourself took that as some kind of diss when it was never about that. Just fans discussing the actual fight in the actual context it took place.

The truth is not an excuse. You don't like to talk about the truth because it gives context to the lies you constantly tell. I am not afraid of the truth because it doesn't bother me. Floyd was avoided by big names until he became the man, then they all wanted to fight him. Some he fought, Some he didn't, same as every other fighter.

At ww, Floyd fought the lineal champ, the #2 and #3 ranked p4p fighters in the world, JMM at 146 when he was #2 p4p in the world. If that is bogus then literally every ww's run at 147 can be considered bogus.

The truth vindicates everyone. That is the point you don't seem to get. When you said he didn't fight winky and Margs I didn't argue with you, just told the truth. You feel his not fighting them as some kind of major flaw. I see it as they didn't fight, same as any other fighter.

You and others reach for things to criticize Floyd for because he never lost in the ring. Therefore, you have to make him not fighting someone equate to a loss. OK but When you do this the truth makes you look like a petty, immature liar, which is exactly what you've been proven to be by myself and other posters in other threads where you try to defend the lies your caught in.

If you had truth on your side you'd simply go with that because there would be nothing I could say to refute it.

Ha. Even Thurman didn't offer up the excuses for losing that you and the Floyd Boys have and he was the one in the ring. And that's the truth.

Margarito called out Floyd waay before he fought Oscar and Hatton. On video even. There was an actual deal on the table. So please spare me the drivel that eeeeerybody was avoiding him until he became big. Winky Wright. Now Floyd actually called Winky Wright out and when Winky called his bluff and signed on, Floyd backed out. And thats the truth.

Now had he jumped up in class and beat a prime Winky Wright, he would be getting the same credit Manny is getting for beating Thurman, and will definitely get if he signs on and beats Spence. But it is what it is and your facts, excuses, whatever can't change it.
Floyd even back then, ain't want to take those kinds of risks. But he made a lot of money. Lol

[The Big Dunn]

Ha. Even Thurman didn't offer up the excuses for losing that you and the Floyd Boys have and he was the one in the ring. And that's the truth.

Margarito called out Floyd waay before he fought Oscar and Hatton. On video even. There was an actual deal on the table. So please spare me the drivel that eeeeerybody was avoiding him until he became big. Winky Wright. Now Floyd actually called Winky Wright out and when Winky called his bluff and signed on, Floyd backed out. And thats the truth.

Now had he jumped up in class and beat a prime Winky Wright, he would be getting the same credit Manny is getting for beating Thurman, and will definitely get if he signs on and beats Spence. But it is what it is and your facts, excuses, whatever can't change it.
Floyd even back then, ain't want to take those kinds of risks. But he made a lot of money. Lol

Lies again. I gave Manny complete credit, as did most of the well known Floyd fans. Only when the unreasonable slurp threads from the dipsh-t diehards came out did posters bring up Thurman's injury and Lopez. The RBR thread will prove this.

I never posted everyone avoided him until he got big. Yes, that is what happened with winky.

You aren't seriously equating beating Thurman in 2019 with beating Winky Wright at 154 back then?

I never posted he wouldn't get any credit. I posted the amount will be determined by where Spence is. That is completely reasonable given the fact he refused to fight him before the accident.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Spence Junior could be out of the game for quite sometime.