Will Pacquiao get full credit when he beats Spence?

[The Big Dunn]

I always give a fair amount of credit to Manny and fighters he has fought.


Now, answer the question about Spence's Horrific injuries
What were they?

You don’t give credit to all fighters so why are you so adamant Manny get credit? Manny isn’t special. If someone doesn’t give him credit they are doing the same thing you do.

I didn’t post he had horrific injuries, I posted the crash was horrific. Why are you asking me to answer a question about something I didn’t ask?

You want manny’s opponents to be judged by a different standard than you judge other fighters opponents. That isn’t going to happen.

[The Big Dunn]

Some of them are even claiming Spence suffered horrific injuries.

These haters are really deluded.

Why are you lying? No one claimed Spence had horrific injuries from the crash.

[The Big Dunn]

at least that lame Dunn admits to HATING Pacquiao, dude is a btch made female probably raised by a single mom thats some hoe ****. He also accuses people of hating on fighters he likes. he thinks because he is a hater you must be a hater too.

Why does someone have to like manny? Is there a rule or something that manny has to be liked by all?

[D4thincarnation]

You don’t give credit to all fighters so why are you so adamant Manny get credit? Manny isn’t special. If someone doesn’t give him credit they are doing the same thing you do.

I didn’t post he had horrific injuries, I posted the crash was horrific. Why are you asking me to answer a question about something I didn’t ask?

You want manny’s opponents to be judged by a different standard than you judge other fighters opponents. That isn’t going to happen.

So how does this horrific car crash effect Spence physically?

[The Big Dunn]

Those LDBC are already saying that Pac dont get credit because if he win Spence was affected by the Car crash and not the same. But they said if Spence beat Pac it will be amazing and you cannot say Pac was 42 and old they said only racists and haters will make excuse for why Pac lost.

Who specifically said this hectari? I think you as usual are lying.

[The Big Dunn]

So how does this horrific car crash effect Spence physically?

We don’t know. We will know once we see Spence again. Most rational people will evaluate Spence fairly. If he looks good manny will get credit same as he did Thurman.

That said it will not change the fact he refused to fight him until after the accident.

what you want is manny to be given full credit for fighting and beating Spence after the accident even though he refused to fight him before the crash.

You wouldn’t give any fighter full credit in this scenario so I don’t understand why you are arguing for manny to get full credit!if it happens.

[The Big Dunn]

Hate is a strong word? Why do you thou? At worst he was a womanizer in his younger days and like to gamble. Not like he was a wife beater like most boxers are etc, or are you one of those who transfer their anger of the rabid fanbase over to the fighter?

I can tell you why i don't LIKE (not hate because i don't know the man personally). I detest wife beaters for one. two i think he brags wayyyy too much for my taste and three, i think since his hands became brittle he started aging certain fighters and waiting till they were past prime or not ready yet (aka Canelo and Pacquiao).

But I can NEVER say i hate a man i do not know personally.

It’s sports hate dude. Not personal hate. No different than saying I hate the Yankees or the Celtics or Duke basketball.

Any rational adult should be able to get that.

As for your reasons for not liking Floyd, I am sure you like other wife beaters and guys that brag. As for waiting to fight guys, manny , odh and Shane all refused to fight him. Cant blame that on him.

Canelo was a world champ with 4 defenses when Floyd fought him. Floyd was 36 years old. You are criticizing a 36 ye old fighting a 23 yr old. Never seen that before.

[D4thincarnation]

We don’t know. We will know once we see Spence again. Most rational people will evaluate Spence fairly. If he looks good manny will get credit same as he did Thurman.

That said it will not change the fact he refused to fight him until after the accident.

what you want is manny to be given full credit for fighting and beating Spence after the accident even though he refused to fight him before the crash.

You wouldn’t give any fighter full credit in this scenario so I don’t understand why you are arguing for manny to get full credit!if it happens.

Doctors evaluated him and checked him over.

Do you think you are more medically qualified than doctors?


So you don't want Spence to fight Manny next?

Who do you want to see Spence fight next?

[djtmal]

I gave manny full credit the night of the fight and still do now. Saying Thurman was not the same as before the injury is a fact that most people agree on.

The problem is manny fans such as yourself can’t admit it because if you do in your mind it somehow diminishing the win. Why? Because you guys always diminish wins by other people because the way you guys have always elevated manny is by putting other fighters down.

The truth is Floyd tried to fight the top 2 wws in the division before he got to ww, odh and Shane, and they refused to fight him. The truth is manny rejected the fight twice. Just like it’s the truth that manny refuses now to fight Spence.

Unfortunately Spence got in the accident. Not manny’s fault in any way. However if he decides to fight him now when he wouldn’t before the accident happened, it is fair to point that out. You know the same way you point out the fact hmm knocked manny out before he fought floyd.

Further, any rational fan is going to assess where Spence is if the fight happens. I get that as a manny fan you can’t handle when regular boxing fans hold fighters to equal standards but that is the right thing to do. you should try it sometime.

So if you give Manny full credit for beating Thurman, any of your afterthought bogus facts that you are trying to subliminally use as an Thurman excuse to the contrary is bogus.

Just like you claim truth that Shane and Oscar refused to fight Floyd, Floyd refused to fight Winky Wright and Margarito. He refused to see Thurman when Thurman called him out plenty of times. Same thing with Khan when Khan won a poll. See how that hypocritical mind of yours works?

That being said, if Manny fights and beats Spence right now he'd get full credit for beating a prime undefeated ww that is recognized as the guy to beat right now, and any excuse you try to pull up will fall on deaf ears.

It actually takes tons of play away from Floyd because he wants to make nothing but no risk fights.

[The Big Dunn]

Doctors evaluated him and checked him over.

Do you think you are more medically qualified than doctors?


So you don't want Spence to fight Manny next?

Who do you want to see Spence fight next?

No I am not more qualified than doctors. I just have seen things happen. Take for instance Manny in 2012..

He was checked out by the ringside physician and doctors in the hospital after his fight and the cut he didn't need to have the wound stitched anymore after his Nov 2011 fight with JMM. Bob Arum in a news conference said Manny was ready to fight in May. Hearing this, the judge in Floyd's DV cases postponed sentencing until after May so presumably they could fight before Floyd went to jail.

Once that announcement was made, Manny suddenly needed to get plastic surgery for the wound which prevented him from being ready in May. This was months after his doctor didn't see a need for any further stitches. So Floyd fought Miguel Cotto.

This is just one example and maybe an anomaly but It is very plausible that Spence could have some complications that arise well after the accident. Unless of course you think Manny and Bob faked this and Bob got his son in law to give him the stitches just to avoid fighting Floyd, but that is another discussion.

I was ok if Spence/Manny unification was next. Manny refused to do so. If Manny were to change his mind, I would say Spence should fight Danny in January then Manny in May.