How come People criticize pac for draining cotto and not floyd for clenelo?

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  • Roadblock
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    #71
    Originally posted by I'm Widdit!
    This is absolute bullshet. Again, you’re confused.

    THE REASON why guys can’t continue make a 1-2lb is because they are already draining for the scale. We know damn well Floyd wasn’t shedding off 10lbs of water like 90% of all fighters, prospect to elite.

    2lbs of water IS EASY TO SHED OFF if you’re not draining. If you say Floyd couldn’t do 2lbs of water shed then you’re automatically acknowledging that he was draining for 146.

    Enough with the long layoff prison crap
    They are all draining !

    And thats why the last little bit can be troublesome if you are taking for granted that it will just fall off .

    All speculation including everything you think !

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    • Marchegiano
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      #72
      They do, because everyone's a little ***** who can't give credit for wins nor blame for losses.

      Pac beat da **** outta Cotto and it was a great win.

      Pac got his ass kicked by Horn and it was a big upset.

      That **** happened, anything else, anymore, youse a *****, we're done here.

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      • Thuglife Nelo
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        #73
        Originally posted by Roadblock
        They are all draining !

        And thats why the last little bit can be troublesome if you are taking for granted that it will just fall off .

        All speculation including everything you think !
        What’s speculation?

        You mean like Floyd not being able to shed off 2lb of water for a 146lb weigh in because of the layoff and “prison?” Lol

        Did Floyd look in shape in either the weigh in or fight night?

        Water is the easiest thing to deplete from the body at any given time, not muscle, unless you’ve got a hacksaw nearby...

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        • GrandpaBernard
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          #74
          Originally posted by ikigai
          When cotto didn't even look anywhere near drained, and the drug cheat was so obviously drained in his fight with floyd.

          Yet People rank canelo as one of floyd's biggest wins, when cotto looked his best at 140 and didn't look drained at all against pac.

          Nobody even mentions the fact the floyd weight drained clenelo when he was so clearly weight drained.
          Cotto was seen as one of manny's best wins.

          Originally posted by HeadShots
          it's the same brain dead welfare merchants who defend Mayweather being caught redhanded with an illegal needle in his arm while trying to smear PED on Pac's name with 0 proof.

          JFL
          keep at it whiny china dork

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          • 4truth
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            #75
            "I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

            "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now."



            it was a joke of a fight

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            • Rip Chudd
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              #76
              Originally posted by ikigai
              I never see anyone criticizing floyd for fighting a weight drained clenelo.

              Having watched dozens of weight drained fighters, and experiencing the effects of weight draining myself when i wrestled in middle school and high school, the drug cheat was clearly weight drained in that fight.

              He had a dazed look in his eyes, his movements were slow and light, he looked sick and he gassed in that fight.

              Cotto comparitively, didnt look weight drained to me, he only "seemed" weight drained after pac knocked him down with that hook uppercut lol. I don't think that had anything to do with him being weaker then usual because he was a phenomenal jr welterweight.

              Cotto didnt grow out of his body, he was already an adult fighting at 140. Canelo grew out of his body.

              Basically my point is, pacquiao didnt deserve criticism for the weight because cotto looked fine, floyd did deserve crticism because clenelo looked weight drained. Yet pac gets all the criticism.

              Thats my point.
              Both get criticism bro, stop it. There were threads here dedicated to Canelo being weight drained. Whenever the fight is brought up people comment to that affect. Just because you say they don't doesn't mean crap as there is a lot of evidence on this site itself to refute that claim. As a matter of fact I can't think of a catchweight fight in recent memory that hasn't received criticism, especially if it was a title fight.

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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                It is a flat out lie if anyone posts they haven’t seen Floyd get criticism for the Canelo cw.

                Further, it is an even bigger lie to claim manny has gotten more criticism for the cotto 145 cw than Floyd has for the Canelo 152 cw.
                Man it's as if people are re-tarded. Dude is on here crying about Floyd not getting enough criticism for the Canelo catch-weight when there are threads dedicated to that very topic.

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                • Larry the boss
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                  #78
                  That is all they ever say to discredit his win, why make up this random lie of a thread?

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Thraxox
                    https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-m...s-quiet--69486

                    When you tried to make stuff up and get beat down.
                    Cotto: “If Pacquiao Wants a Title for the Fight, It Will Have to Be at 147″
                    date July 31st, 2009 - 39 Comments
                    By Manuel Perez: If Manny Pacquiao wants a chance at World Boxing Organization welterweight champion Miguel Cotto’s WBO title, then Manny’s going to have to grow a pair and put on another two pounds to make the fight at the normal 147 pound limit of the welterweight division rather than his 145 pound catch weight business because Cotto is refusing to put his WBO title on the line for their November 14th fight unless Pacquiao comes in at the normal weight.


                    I don’t see the problem with any of this. It’s pretty simple, really. Pacquiao wants Cotto’s title to be on the line because he has this thing about wanting to capture a 7th world title.

                    Manny Pacquiao Miguel Cotto Cotto-PacquiaoCotto agreed to Pacquiao’s wishes to have the fight take place at a 145 pound catch weight, so that Pacquiao, the smaller fighter, could have a little handicap in then fight. But Cotto didn’t agree to put his WBO title on the line, which I totally agree with.


                    I mean, Cotto can’t give everything up if he’s already giving in by taking the smaller cut of the PPV revenue, coming in at a lower 145 pound catch weight. By having his WBO belt on the line at the lower weight, just seems wrong. If Pacquiao wants the title, let him put on a couple of pounds and take Cotto on at the regulation weight of 147 instead of trying to have things his own way.

                    There’s talk that the WBO might pressure Cotto to put the title on the line by threatening to strip him of his title unless he puts it on the line for the fight. The WBO already has said that they’re okay with the title being on the line at the lower 145 pound weight rather than 147. It’s very peculiar how the WBO would choose to bend their rules like this, but oh well, this is boxing for you.

                    However, Cotto is saying that he’ll vacate the WBO title if they try to force him to put it on the line for the fight. Freddie Roach, Pacquiao’s trainer, is unhappy with all this and thinks that the fight has little meaning unless the title is on the line. I doubt that he really believes this because it sounds like he’s just trying to placate the wishes of Pacquiao, knowing how much he wants to try and pick up this trinket.

                    It looks like Pacquiao is going to have to make a decision. Either he fights Cotto at the normal weight for the welterweight division at 147, or he fights the bout without the title being on the line. I have pretty good guess what Pacquiao will do. No way will he take the fight at 147, because I think Cotto will give Pacquiao problems if the bout is held at the full welterweight limit.

                    I think Cotto is going to beat him anyway, but without the gimmick of the 145 catch weight slowing Cotto down by weakening him, he’s going to destroy Pacquiao in quick fashion. Of course, that was a pretty much shot De La Hoya and not a prime Cotto.

                    Cotto is a proud warrior and he doesn’t care if he’s stripped of his title. He fights on principal and I have a massive amount of respect for this warrior. It’s like they want Cotto to have his title on the line with a handicap of Cotto fighting the bout on his knees with one hand tied behind his back. No one really cares about the title anyway except for boxing fans that are into the status thing.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      "I wouldn't do that. But when the (fight) negotiations started, they wanted me to go to 147. I said that's physically impossible. I couldn't do it. Then they inched up to 150. I said I can't do it, that's impossible. Those days are over. I can't make that weight anymore, I've grown.

                      "Then they went up to 151. And then finally, so we could make the fight, I said, 'If anything, I'll give up two pounds. I'll go up to 152. I agreed to that. Then they tried to force me to be quiet and not to mention anything that they came up with the weight of 152. And that's why ... I haven't said anything until now."



                      it was a joke of a fight
                      Damn bro this one is a gem. I can’t remember which channel on YouTube had him saying this too. I can’t find it anymore. I remember him saying this on camera!! Not the same interview, but where he talked about 150 from Floyd’s camp requesting it

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