How come People criticize pac for draining cotto and not floyd for clenelo?

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  • Rip Chudd
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    #41
    I've seen both fights get their fair amount of criticism. Don't know why people act as if one does but the other doesn't

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    • thedarkdragon11
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      #42
      I don't get these people who criticize TBE (not The Best Ever) for fighting catchweight... Accept it, he's the Catchweight King... It's a weight class that should be exclusive for him...

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      • spenz
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        Cotto and Canelo, even if you give them some pounds do not in any way stand a chance against Pac or Floyd because their level is a good notch below these two generational fighters. They are just great elite fighters but they do not belong in the class of Pac/floyd.

        There is nothing to gain for Cotto if you give him that 1 more pound but more PAIN. Cotto can't outbox, outbrawl, outsmart nor out anything against a prime Pacman. Manny is just too much pound for pound.

        Canelo can gain more pounds and use his famous Carne and he can never touch someone like Floyd, the level is just too much to overcome. It's like he was trying to catch a fly with a pair of chopsticks without the skill level of Sensei Miyagi. A futile effort that will eventually lead to failure.
        Last edited by spenz; 10-13-2019, 11:12 PM.

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        • llll
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          #44
          Originally posted by Rip Chudd
          I've seen both fights get their fair amount of criticism. Don't know why people act as if one does but the other doesn't
          I never see anyone criticizing floyd for fighting a weight drained clenelo.

          Having watched dozens of weight drained fighters, and experiencing the effects of weight draining myself when i wrestled in middle school and high school, the drug cheat was clearly weight drained in that fight.

          He had a dazed look in his eyes, his movements were slow and light, he looked sick and he gassed in that fight.

          Cotto comparitively, didnt look weight drained to me, he only "seemed" weight drained after pac knocked him down with that hook uppercut lol. I don't think that had anything to do with him being weaker then usual because he was a phenomenal jr welterweight.

          Cotto didnt grow out of his body, he was already an adult fighting at 140. Canelo grew out of his body.

          Basically my point is, pacquiao didnt deserve criticism for the weight because cotto looked fine, floyd did deserve crticism because clenelo looked weight drained. Yet pac gets all the criticism.

          Thats my point.
          Last edited by llll; 10-13-2019, 11:16 PM.

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          • Spoon23
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            #45
            You do know that Cotto's previous fight before Pac, when he fought Joshua Clottey. Cotto weighed in @ 146 lbs during the weigh in right? You do know that? Meaning when he signed to fight Pac. He only needed to shed a pound to make the fight happen. Meaning, all he needed to do is dump a 1lb of shyit and he's all good.

            And that is why..

            Knowing is half the battle.
            Last edited by Spoon23; 10-14-2019, 02:38 AM.

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            • Spoon23
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              #46
              Originally posted by HeadShots
              it's the same brain dead welfare merchants who defend Mayweather being caught redhanded with an illegal needle in his arm while trying to smear PED on Pac's name with 0 proof.

              JFL
              Damn. That was a slam dunk!

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              • Curtis Harper
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                #47
                Originally posted by Spoon23
                You do know that Cotto's previous fight before Pac, when he fought Joshua Clottey. Cotto weighed in @ 146 lbs during the weigh in right? You do know that? Meaning when he signed to fight Pac. He only needed to shed a pound to make the fight happen. Meaning, all he needed to do is dump a 1lb of shyit and his all good.

                And that is why..

                Knowing is half the battle.
                The question remains....why would Pac refuse the Cotto fight by ONE POUND ???

                Being an honest fight fan is the other half

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                • Spoon23
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Curtis Harper
                  The question remains....why would Pac refuse the Cotto fight by ONE POUND ???

                  Being an honest fight fan is the other half
                  You do know previous to that he fought Hatton at 140 lbs. And you should also know that in that point in time he was more of a midget who was more like a super featherweight going up fighting bigger men in the welterweight division. So if you can't see the fair game in that scenario. You need to unlearn what you've learned in your life in boxing.

                  Oh, and I forgot to mention he was the A side, and whether he needed to exercise it or not, It's all about fair game. Meeting halfway is fair game.

                  And that is why..

                  Knowing is half the battle.

                  Last edited by Spoon23; 10-14-2019, 02:21 AM.

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                  • Thuglife Nelo
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Phenom
                    Cotto protested the catchweight even threatened to vacate the belt Canelo voluntarily offered a catchweight to lure Floyd who accepted the offer

                    Both are b1tch moves but that poster has a point the catchweight was forced on Cotto
                    Floyd wanted 150lbs. Canelo said 154. Floyd wasn’t going to do it. Oscar forced Canelo to do 152.

                    This is why Canelo never brings up the weight for his loss to Floyd. He always states in any interview context, “I will never allow myself to be manipulated in a situation like that again.” Floyd and Oscar exploded the situation the same way DAZN tried to recently.

                    Canelo the people’s Champ!

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #50
                      The Pac boys don’t realize that Floyd wanted to fight Canelo at the same weight PAC fought Angulo for the 154 belt.

                      The only difference is that Pac got the opportunity to fight at 150 for a 154 strap whereas Floyd had already fought at 154 limit twice before he fought Canelo. This is how dangerous Canelo was to Floyd

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