Has there ever been a murder at a boxing presser before?

[-Kev-]

nope, if you punch someone in the back of the head and they die from a brain bleed it's murder, probably murder one.

Idk about that. Sounds like involuntary manslaughter.

[4truth]

Idk about that. Sounds like involuntary manslaughter.

Murder 1 it is not but it is practically the definition of murder 2, which I posted earlier in the thread.

[Eddy Current]

It’s not murder until it can be proved that it was pre meditated.

But didn't the verbal altercation happen a little bit before, then he walked up behind him with the intent to strike his head as hard as he could?

I guess the intent may not have been to murder, but the intent was to inflict great harm. I swear I've heard of cases where two drunk guys fight, one dies, and the other goes away for murder though.

[4truth]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.ledger-enquirer.com/news/local/crime/article223057800.html

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-ahmed-murder-conviction-punch-case-2015may16-story.html%3f_amp=true

There were plenty more. Seems about 50/50 manslaughter charges or murder.

[-Kev-]

Murder 1 it is not but it is practically the definition of murder 2, which I posted earlier in the thread.

Yeah...hypothetically he didn’t intend to kill him, with punches. He also did not know that a few punches would kill him. He was being reckless for sure. Could be voluntary manslaughter.

[KTFOKING]

Yes there has. Didn't some Irish gang/mob shoot up some weigh in a few years back?

[GGG Gloveking]

The issue as I see it, isn't about his intent, but rather the recklessness of his actions. To me, it's hard to argue that he intended to kill the victim. However, if a reasonable person can foresee the victim's death, then murder is warranted.

It's like the example Don Pichardo brought up in another thread. If a person drives a truck through a crowd, then it's easy for a reasonable person to foresee someone dying as a result. The issue before the court would be whether a reasonable person could foresee the victim's death as a result of the perpetrators recklessness

[Marchegiano]

Intent matters but I don't give a **** about the legal definition, if you kill someone without protecting **** you're GD murderer, and a ***** ass.

[Boxingraya]

Yes there has. Didn't some Irish gang/mob shoot up some weigh in a few years back?

I think you're right.

[Double]

Anyone know how the trainer who got sucker punched is doing?