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  • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
    1. Still not quite the response Im looking for. Back then they fought 5 times a month, and allot of those fights were exhibition matches.

    2. SRR is talented, but the guys he fought were a few notches below Berto.

    3. Their are no holes. How come everyone nitpicks Floyd, who is greater than anyone we've ever seen, but when I mention SRR fought bums in an empty era, its an excuse?

    Guys asking "How many prime goats has Mayweather faced" All I did was ask how many SRR faced. If you want to do it to Floyd, then you got to do it to everyone. But when we do that, Floyd is going to REALLY be seen as greater than all the other legends in history.

    My stance is simple, I treat all these fighters the same. No disrespect to SRR at all!
    OK 15 rounds at SW after each guy fights everyone that SRR fought with no injections in their hand. No peds, no modern training methods, no conditioning gurus.

    Or 12 rounds at SW modern training methods, conditioning coaches, dieticians access to Peds etc after both guys fight everyone Mayweather fought.

    Under both scenarios I'd pick Robinson in a heart beat.

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    • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
      Lol “treating all these fighters the same”...except for calling these hofers that srr fought bums, while trying to elevate B & C level fighters who will never have a hope in hell of being inducted into the hof. You’re moving the goalposts to bolster your dumb argument, plain and simple.
      Well if Floyd faced them, wouldnt we be calling them WORSE than bums? See I dont have to move any goalposts. And Floyd doesnt fight "B & C" level fighters.

      However, if his opponents are of that caliber, then what would that make SRR's opponents? Do you know how badly Chino would beat the living hell out of Jake Lomatta? Lol

      Did you know that SRR hasnt faced one opponent who would even CHALLENGE Pacman or Crawford. Not even CHALLENGE them. You didnt know this though right?

      Lol

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      • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
        weak azz trolling here. the other "top fighters" Ortiz was "competitive" with were B level at best. but yea, Ortiz was better than lhw joey maxim. if you wanna argue modern fighters are better, fine...but they were certainly tougher back then. I'd take any fighter who went 15 rounds every few weeks over a guy who folds mentally under adversity like Ortiz.
        Im the troll, but not you right? Lol @ Joey Maxim's bumass!!

        And I dont wanna entertain your manipulative nonsense "You saying modern fighters are better than the past fighters"

        Bytch, you know exactly what I said. I said Ortiz, is better than anyone SRR ever fought, and its because of a depleted era!

        Sad, SRR eliminated from the GOAT conversation. Because if Floyd hasnt faced anyone great, then of course SRR DAMN SURE, aint faced NO DAMN BODY EVEN GOOD!!

        Lol

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        • Originally posted by TonyGe View Post
          OK 15 rounds at SW after each guy fights everyone that SRR fought with no injections in their hand. No peds, no modern training methods, no conditioning gurus.

          Or 12 rounds at SW modern training methods, conditioning coaches, dieticians access to Peds etc after both guys fight everyone Mayweather fought.

          Under both scenarios I'd pick Robinson in a heart beat.
          Honestly, I think back then they probably was taking all types of **** because it wasnt no rules or anything tbh.

          But are you saying "Yea, they bums, but they were tough because they fought allot"?

          I can agree with that sentiment. Im just saying that skillwise, they were ass.

          You feel that if Lomatta fought in this era, he would fight only 4 times a year at the most, and that would make him more skilled?

          I cant say I agree on that, and its a hypothetical. Im simply looking at the abilities, and judging how trash they were.

          Look at Charley Burley, he fought in that era, but he had skills.

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          • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Well if Floyd faced them, wouldnt we be calling them WORSE than bums? See I dont have to move any goalposts. And Floyd doesnt fight "B & C" level fighters.

            However, if his opponents are of that caliber, then what would that make SRR's opponents? Do you know how badly Chino would beat the living hell out of Jake Lomatta? Lol

            Did you know that SRR hasnt faced one opponent who would even CHALLENGE Pacman or Crawford. Not even CHALLENGE them. You didnt know this though right?

            Lol
            Don’t worry...some bag licker of a future fighter in 20 years will be telling you that everyone mayweather fought were bums compared to “modern” fighters lol.

            Robinson fought up to mw and lhw...but 5’5 pac destroys em all doe...you’ve gone full ******.

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            • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
              Im the troll, but not you right? Lol @ Joey Maxim's bumass!!

              And I dont wanna entertain your manipulative nonsense "You saying modern fighters are better than the past fighters"

              Bytch, you know exactly what I said. I said Ortiz, is better than anyone SRR ever fought, and its because of a depleted era!

              Sad, SRR eliminated from the GOAT conversation. Because if Floyd hasnt faced anyone great, then of course SRR DAMN SURE, aint faced NO DAMN BODY EVEN GOOD!!

              Lol
              Ortiz is just a terrible example for the ****** point you think you’re making lol. He would absolutely fold under the pressure of any number of fighters on srr’s resume. Victor Ortiz...just lol...can’t make this stuff up. Yep, that was the fight that really sealed Floyd’s legacy, the world beater victor Ortiz lol.

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              • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                Don’t worry...some bag licker of a future fighter in 20 years will be telling you that everyone mayweather fought were bums compared to “modern” fighters lol.

                Robinson fought up to mw and lhw...but 5’5 pac destroys em all doe...you’ve gone full ******.
                You are outstanding. Lol Now your making this about how I feel that modern fighters are better than past fighters? When tha*** did I ever say that? Lol

                I said SRR fought a bunch of bums, and that Chino would beat the living hell out of Jake Lomatta.

                But you know exactly what I said.

                Again, I five SRR the same credit, I give Floyd when it comes to circumstantial disadvantages. Except Floyd faced top notch opponents who were bigger and younger than him, and HUMILIATED them.

                SRR faced BUMS who were simply bigger than him, and he did ight. For me, Bhop greater than SRR!

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                • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                  Ortiz is just a terrible example for the ****** point you think you’re making lol. He would absolutely fold under the pressure of any number of fighters on srr’s resume. Victor Ortiz...just lol...can’t make this stuff up. Yep, that was the fight that really sealed Floyd’s legacy, the world beater victor Ortiz lol.
                  Honestly, I think Ortiz would beat the living hell out of Jake Lomatta as well!!

                  But you feel that Chino most definitely would, which I agree on that. But I think even Berto can draw with allot of those guys!

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                  • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                    You are outstanding. Lol Now your making this about how I feel that modern fighters are better than past fighters? When tha*** did I ever say that? Lol

                    I said SRR fought a bunch of bums, and that Chino would beat the living hell out of Jake Lomatta.

                    But you know exactly what I said.

                    Again, I five SRR the same credit, I give Floyd when it comes to circumstantial disadvantages. Except Floyd faced top notch opponents who were bigger and younger than him, and HUMILIATED them.

                    SRR faced BUMS who were simply bigger than him, and he did ight. For me, Bhop greater than SRR!
                    You’re the one who dragged srr into this in the first place. I was talking about Leonard...who fought better opposition than mayweather. It’s not even debatable, which is why you had to add some hypothetical “what if” element to the conversation.

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                    • Originally posted by Real King Kong View Post
                      You’re the one who dragged srr into this in the first place. I was talking about Leonard...who fought better opposition than mayweather. It’s not even debatable, which is why you had to add some hypothetical “what if” element to the conversation.
                      But I dont think you feel SRL faced better opposition than Floyd. I think after I pointed out the "context of the opposition" as you stated, it made you think differently. And you never really proved your point, you just kind of trolled, and kept repeating it.

                      I asked the hypothetical, because if Floyd fought subpar opponents, then what did SRR face? And your telling me, that since I brought it up, THATS the reason you tried to flip the conversation to "modern fighters vs older fighters"?

                      THATS the reason you tried to be slick with the topic of discussion?

                      You couldnt just simply admit that SRR indeed faced lesser opponents than Floyd? That would've made you look better, than trying to manipulate a narrative. Even if you felt Ortiz wasnt as good as Lomatta, you should've proved your point, oppose to trying to manipulate the topic of discussion. THAT would've made you look better, even after you lost the debate!

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