Comments Thread For: GGG: Biggest Opponent is My Age & Determination To Keep Boxing

[Real King Kong]

As if I didnt know that the boxing Hof had plenty of bums in it. Sly Stallone is in the HOF, for making movies.

You never "speculated" anything. You have constantly deflected, trolled and ignored all of my points. Never responded to anything. Never made any sort of case or anything.


If you felt that SRR has faced opponents better than Ortiz, you should've explained why you felt that way. If you felt that "Well because some of them are in the HOF", you should've stated that, then I would've responded "Well the HOF has a bunch of scrubs in it", and that would've been my way of crushing that debate.

Instead, you spin the convo to "modern fighters vs throwback fighters". Then I called you out on it, and you say "Well I did it because you mentioned SRR"????

If I mention SRR thats no reason to manipulate the conversation. If you have a valid point, then you respond to it. But when you dont have a valid point, you ignore it or try to do slick ****, so you can make sure you get away without feeling like your wrong and the other person is right?

Being wrong aint worth all of this. You embarrassed yourself!

Lol...if you feel Ortiz is better than anyone srr faced, you should explain why you feel that way, as opposed to simply stating it like it’s fact.

As I said, my original point was Floyd never faced the type of opposition Leonard did prime vs prime...you’ve been squirming your way around it. Those are the types of fights that define legacies...not waiting 5 years when both guys are past it. Most fighters only get 1 or 2 chances their entire career to make those types of fights.

[MurkaMan]

Lol...if you feel Ortiz is better than anyone srr faced, you should explain why you feel that way, as opposed to simply stating it like it’s fact.

As I said, my original point was Floyd never faced the type of opposition Leonard did prime vs prime...you’ve been squirming your way around it. Those are the types of fights that define legacies...not waiting 5 years when both guys are past it. Most fighters only get 1 or 2 chances their entire career to make those types of fights.

You mean how SRL ducked Hagler, and cherrypicked him 5yrs past his prime? Too easy! Lol

You didnt expect me to bring up SRR's bad resume. You dont like my style of holding all fighters to the same standard.

Because all you knew was nitpicking everything Floyd does, when he is lightyears greater than anything we have ever seen, and toughest resume since Ali!

When I broke down all these fighters careers and resume's all you could do was ignore and repeat. Could never explain yourself.


You were caught by surprise when I mentioned SRR never facing an opponent as good as Ortiz, a guy who you claimed was so bad.

So then you manipulate the conversation to "throwback fighters vs modern fighters". I have made myself extremely clear. You can never say you misunderstood nothing I said.

I asked you about why you manipulated the topic, and you said you did it because you didnt like me mentioning SRR's resume.

Now who df does that? Lol

[Real King Kong]

You mean how SRL ducked Hagler, and cherrypicked him 5yrs past his prime? Too easy! Lol

You didnt expect me to bring up SRR's bad resume. You dont like my style of holding all fighters to the same standard.

Because all you knew was nitpicking everything Floyd does, when he is lightyears greater than anything we have ever seen, and toughest resume since Ali!

When I broke down all these fighters careers and resume's all you could do was ignore and repeat. Could never explain yourself.


You were caught by surprise when I mentioned SRR never facing an opponent as good as Ortiz, a guy who you claimed was so bad.

So then you manipulate the conversation to "throwback fighters vs modern fighters". I have made myself extremely clear. You can never say you misunderstood nothing I said.

I asked you about why you manipulated the topic, and you said you did it because you didnt like me mentioning SRR's resume.

Now who df does that? Lol

even a "cherrypicked" haggler is still better than any opponent Floyd ever faced.

yes, I was surprised when you said robinson never faced an opponent as good as Ortiz...surprised by the ******ity. like I said, the only logical explanation as to why you'd make that statement is because you believe modern fighters are better overall than fighters from that era. how else would a C class Ortiz, who has 0 chance of being in the hof and held a belt for about 5 minutes in a 4 belt era, better than bonafide hofers and champions in a 1 belt era?

[MurkaMan]

even a "cherrypicked" haggler is still better than any opponent Floyd ever faced.

yes, I was surprised when you said robinson never faced an opponent as good as Ortiz...surprised by the ******ity. like I said, the only logical explanation as to why you'd make that statement is because you believe modern fighters are better overall than fighters from that era. how else would a C class Ortiz, who has 0 chance of being in the hof and held a belt for about 5 minutes in a 4 belt era, better than bonafide hofers and champions in a 1 belt era?

Hahaha... But didnt you say "Those are the types of fights that define legacies...not waiting 5 years when both guys are past it. Most fighters only get 1 or 2 chances their entire career to make those types of fights."

Even a cherrypicked Pacman, is better and stylistically more tricky than anyone SRL has ever faced!

And I think Floyd being his size, and his age later on, has been up against tougher opponents. In fact, a 31yrs old SRL vs a 30yr old Hagler at 160, is the closest SRL is going to get to EVER seeming similar to Floyd. Because thats Floyd's entire resume.

SRL had a draw vs Hagler, Floyd humiliated men at more difficult circumstances!

Has SRR ever faced anyone like Charley Burley? Or the CoCo Kid? Or ANYONE from the Murderer's Row? Great fighters who fought in the same era as the bums he faced Lol

But when you tried to be slick with the whole "modern fighters vs throwback fighters" thing why df you gonna actually admit that you did it because you aint like me picking apart SRR's legacy?

Fool, are you crazy?? Haha!!

[Real King Kong]

Hahaha... But didnt you say "Those are the types of fights that define legacies...not waiting 5 years when both guys are past it. Most fighters only get 1 or 2 chances their entire career to make those types of fights."

Even a cherrypicked Pacman, is better and stylistically more tricky than anyone SRL has ever faced!

And I think Floyd being his size, and his age later on, has been up against tougher opponents. In fact, a 31yrs old SRL vs a 30yr old Hagler at 160, is the closest SRL is going to get to EVER seeming similar to Floyd. Because thats Floyd's entire resume.

SRL had a draw vs Hagler, Floyd humiliated men at more difficult circumstances!

Has SRR ever faced anyone like Charley Burley? Or the CoCo Kid? Or ANYONE from the Murderer's Row? Great fighters who fought in the same era as the bums he faced Lol

But when you tried to be slick with the whole "modern fighters vs throwback fighters" thing why df you gonna actually admit that you did it because you aint like me picking apart SRR's legacy?

Fool, are you crazy?? Haha!!

why did you ignore the hearns fight and jump straight to hagler?

you keep brining up Floyd's age and circumstances to even the playing field...the fact is, he faced lesser opposition, period.

if you don't believe fighters of this era are better than fighters from robinson's era, i'll take you at your word. there's plenty of people who feel that way, though...it's not uncommon among boxing fans. I mean, saying C level fighters like victor Ortiz are better than hofers and world champions from that era would certainly make it appear that way. you only brought up robinson to avoid the issue of leonard facing better opposition than Floyd anyway...not sure why you keep going back to it like it's some type of "gotcha" statement.

[delukard]

Hahaha... But didnt you say "Those are the types of fights that define legacies...not waiting 5 years when both guys are past it. Most fighters only get 1 or 2 chances their entire career to make those types of fights."

Even a cherrypicked Pacman, is better and stylistically more tricky than anyone SRL has ever faced!

And I think Floyd being his size, and his age later on, has been up against tougher opponents. In fact, a 31yrs old SRL vs a 30yr old Hagler at 160, is the closest SRL is going to get to EVER seeming similar to Floyd. Because thats Floyd's entire resume.

SRL had a draw vs Hagler, Floyd humiliated men at more difficult circumstances!

Has SRR ever faced anyone like Charley Burley? Or the CoCo Kid? Or ANYONE from the Murderer's Row? Great fighters who fought in the same era as the bums he faced Lol

But when you tried to be slick with the whole "modern fighters vs throwback fighters" thing why df you gonna actually admit that you did it because you aint like me picking apart SRR's legacy?

Fool, are you crazy?? Haha!!

i like floyd, but honestly man paquiao was damaged goods by the time he faced floyd.

i give floyd credit that he fought the way he always does and took paquiao to school.

the first time paquiao engaged floyd made him pay and it was marquez flashbacks in paquiaos head, since then the fight was over.

Having said that, yes SRL was a ***** for waiting for haggler to fade but even a faded haggler is much much better than any floyd oponent.

also the hitman would have killed paquiao with that right hand, if morales could land that right hand and do damage to paquiao i can only imagine what that hitman right hand would do to paquiao.

the only fight i would love to see because it would be 50 50 in my book would be duran vs paquiao and i say 50 50 because both men would try to ko each other and it would happen.

[MurkaMan]

why did you ignore the hearns fight and jump straight to hagler?

you keep brining up Floyd's age and circumstances to even the playing field...the fact is, he faced lesser opposition, period.

if you don't believe fighters of this era are better than fighters from robinson's era, i'll take you at your word. there's plenty of people who feel that way, though...it's not uncommon among boxing fans. I mean, saying C level fighters like victor Ortiz are better than hofers and world champions from that era would certainly make it appear that way. you only brought up robinson to avoid the issue of leonard facing better opposition than Floyd anyway...not sure why you keep going back to it like it's some type of "gotcha" statement.

So since I called out that he ducked Hagler in his prime, and cherrypicked him when he was older, you mention that Hearns is the only great fighter he faced in his prime to deflect some more?

When your the one who said "You dont duck great fighters in their prime to face them when their older..You only get one shot to face them"

You silly fool!!!

Their is no even playing field. For me, Floyd at his natural weight class vs Genero and Diego, is the same as SRL at ww vs Hearns!

Floyd just completely outdid SRL by humiliating men that he shouldnt have even beat. If we put SRL at the same circumstances, he wont humiliate anyone. He would lose his life, as you admitted earlier!

Floyd has more nuts than SRL by default, because his skills are that much greater. I dont hold it against SRL, until people dare compare the two!

Its apples and oranges, and people only compare the two because SRL is a natural ww, while Floyd who isnt, made a bigger name for himself at the weight class.

But do me a favor, if you ever try some slick **** like manipulate the conversation, when someone calls you out on it, dont ever admit to it.

Im done whippin yo azz up and down the forum!! I know you want to troll some more, Im just happy people will be able to read why I feel the way I do!

[MurkaMan]

i like floyd, but honestly man paquiao was damaged goods by the time he faced floyd.

i give floyd credit that he fought the way he always does and took paquiao to school.

the first time paquiao engaged floyd made him pay and it was marquez flashbacks in paquiaos head, since then the fight was over.

Having said that, yes SRL was a ***** for waiting for haggler to fade but even a faded haggler is much much better than any floyd oponent.

also the hitman would have killed paquiao with that right hand, if morales could land that right hand and do damage to paquiao i can only imagine what that hitman right hand would do to paquiao.

the only fight i would love to see because it would be 50 50 in my book would be duran vs paquiao and i say 50 50 because both men would try to ko each other and it would happen.

Happy you read my stance, and are willing to engage. I enjoy having these conversations.

I too feelthat Pacman wasnt the same when he faced Floyd. I dont think thats the most meaningful fight from Floyd. I look at all those big young guys he dominated when he was past prime, because it wasnt normal to see a man at those circumstantial disadvantages be so dominant. I feel the same way regarding Bhop, I just feel Floyd is overall better than Bhop.

For me, I actually think Pac vs Floyd could've been a draw, or gone either way. Their was no "schooling" from the money man, but they both were old.

I feel that Hagler at his prime, was a fast handed ball of skills and destruction. While Pac, an ATG as well as Hagler, in his prime was something we never seen before.

Past prime Hagler, was a come forward brawler who made allot of mistakes. Pac past his prime, just wasnt as athletic and violent as he used to be. But way better than a past prime Hagler.

Legacy wise, I have Pac ahead of Hagler, because Hagler stayed at a weight class and beat the hell out of smaller men moving up. Pac went up and weight and beat on bigger men like SRL, Floyd, Bhop etc. Hagler is the only one who didnt.

Hagler acted like a ***** and retired after losing to SRL. It reminds me of Ronda Rousey a bit tbh.

I actually think Floyd and Pac both would dominate the fab four, excluding Hagler, he was too big. I think they would be too small and quick for all those guys.

I think both would razzle and dazzle against bigger men. I think Pac will always have problems will guys his size and smaller.

I dont fault you for thinking otherwise because remember, Floyd and Pac both overachieved. These arent real welterweights. They have done wonderful at that weight. You feel the way you feel because Hearns is a real ww, and way bigger.

I think Pac vs Duran at 135, is a pick em. I think at 147, Pac would be so strong and sharp on his feet. He would do like SRL in that rematch, but more violence and offense.

I think Floyd vs Duran at ww is also one sided, but at 135? Duran would have a better shot, but Floyd would literally make zero mistakes down their!

Good convo!

[Real King Kong]

So since I called out that he ducked Hagler in his prime, and cherrypicked him when he was older, you mention that Hearns is the only great fighter he faced in his prime to deflect some more?

When your the one who said "You dont duck great fighters in their prime to face them when their older..You only get one shot to face them"

You silly fool!!!

Their is no even playing field. For me, Floyd at his natural weight class vs Genero and Diego, is the same as SRL at ww vs Hearns!

Floyd just completely outdid SRL by humiliating men that he shouldnt have even beat. If we put SRL at the same circumstances, he wont humiliate anyone. He would lose his life, as you admitted earlier!

Floyd has more nuts than SRL by default, because his skills are that much greater. I dont hold it against SRL, until people dare compare the two!

Its apples and oranges, and people only compare the two because SRL is a natural ww, while Floyd who isnt, made a bigger name for himself at the weight class.

But do me a favor, if you ever try some slick **** like manipulate the conversation, when someone calls you out on it, dont ever admit to it.

Im done whippin yo azz up and down the forum!! I know you want to troll some more, Im just happy people will be able to read why I feel the way I do!

lol...you like going in circles, don't you? I said great fighters may only get one or 2 shots at facing another atg in their primes...I didn't specify who...you latched onto hagler cuz it fit your narrative. even if it was just hearns, that's still one more than Floyd has on his resume. not sure why you bring up genero hernandez if you want to criticize leonard for the hagler fight...and corrales is a D level fighter in comparison to hearns.

[MurkaMan]

lol...you like going in circles, don't you? I said great fighters may only get one or 2 shots at facing another atg in their primes...I didn't specify who...you latched onto hagler cuz it fit your narrative. even if it was just hearns, that's still one more than Floyd has on his resume. not sure why you bring up genero hernandez if you want to criticize leonard for the hagler fight...and corrales is a D level fighter in comparison to hearns.

I dont think Diego was a D level fighter. Not only that, but him and Floyd were both at their natural weight classes in their primes, and Floyd battered him. Whether your in your prime or past your prime, SRL rarely batters anyone!

But just like you wanna pick apart SRL for facing Hagler past his prime, the same way we gotta talk about SRL when he himself was past his prime. Oh but wait, you said "I only care about what SRL did in his prime."

Unlike SRL, Floyd got old, the opponents got tougher, younger, stronger, and Floyd was even more dominant!

See Idgaf about Floyd vs Diego or Genero at 135. I only mentioned it since your the one who brought up fighters in their primes facing eachother.

But these fights didnt make Floyd the goat. His fights when he was past his prime, out of his weight class, late 30s, just schooling men who would typically KO other greats at the same circumstantial disadvantages!

I could care less about when Floyd was in his prime and beating Genero or Diego. If he was as good as they said he was, he should've at least won by default. Of course he doesnt win, he dominates.

But what he did when he was older, and who he did it against? Greatest to ever step in the ring!

But when you try to be slick and manipulate the conversation, when someone calls you out on it, NEVER admit to it dumbo! Looking back at those posts, surely you could've responded better than that!