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  • champion4ever
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    #21
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    Deontay Wilder turned down 100 million Dollars and the fight he wanted the most, all of us wanted the most, the Joshua fight and he did it out of loyalty to Stephen Espinoza and Showtime. This isnt BS he actually made it very clear by saying it pretty much word for word how i put it. He talked about how Stephen and Showtime were there for him and have got him to where he is today and so he feels obligated to repay their investment in him with some loyalty to them. Seemed a bit crazy to me to turn down so much money and turn down the undisputed fight out of loyalty to a network but at the same time i found something quite heart warming and honourable about it.

    YET 1 FIGHT LATER he is binning them off for a Fox PPV? Espinoza over paid Wilder big time in the Breazeale fight because of what DAZN offered and it was still only half of the new network offer and claimed that he was happy to take a financial hit to repay Wilder for his loyalty. But Wilder v Ortiz 2 is going to be on FOX PPV. Espinoza and Showtime invested in Wilder in the Breazeale fight to keep him loyal to them.

    Some loyalty, he turned down AJ and 100 million out of loyalty then 1 fight later forgot all about that loyalty. The more i read, the more i hear the more it becomes clear that Wilder has ducked Anthony Joshua.

    Loyalty my ass. DUCK more like. There is clearly no loyalty towards Espinoza or Showtime. I keep saying this over and over, Team Wilder, the PBC, the LDBC all keep coming out with excuses as to why Wilder cant take the Joshua fight but each and every time it is only a matter of time before everything that has been said by Team Wilder, PBC and LDBC is proven wrong, time and time and time again. Time always uncovers their lies and BS excuses.
    Wow, your racial animus for Deontay Wilder in particular and black people in general knows no boundaries and is very toxic. Deontay Wilder's, Al Haymon's and the PBC's success must really burn you. You are really hurting on the inside. I feel very sorry for you. You have my deepest condolences.

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      #22
      Originally posted by kafkod
      More lies. Wilder's excuse was that DAZN wouldn't tell him how much AJ would be payed.
      That was part of it too. Look at the Ruiz rematch. All that drama would’ve been on a larger scale if it was Wilder. That’s not how Wilder does things.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
        I love how you guys leave out the part where it’s a 4 fight deal.
        It was a 3 fight deal, 4 if Breazeale beat Wilder in the 1st match which would give him his rematch option and another 20 million. They wanted Wilder to fight on DAZN just like Team Wilder wanted Joshua to fight on their network. Hell this could of gone down to a 2 fight deal but Team Wilder did not want to negotiate or continue any form of conversation regarding that fight.

        Goons like you were trying to make it out that they were asking Wilder to leave the PBC and join DAZN for 3 fights, 4 if needed which in itself is ridiculous. He would of signed on to fight on DAZN, he was not to wave goodbye to the PBC and become a DAZN fighter, hes just fighting on another network. Which clearly isnt a problem cuz hes ****ed Espinoza off to fight on FOX, so whats the problem?

        But the thing that really bothered me about that DAZN offer was team Wilder did not try to negotiate they just refused it and walked in to the sun set, made a point of saying that the EXACT SAME JOSHUA WILDER fights would gain more money on Showtime under PBC control but then never actually bothered to make a counter offer. They said that but did nothing, just walked off in to the sunset talking about all the inhouse fights they can make.

        In short they were offered life changing money and the EXACT fights Wilder claimed he wnated and they turned it down and made zero efforts in taking that any further. Its like they never actually wanted that fight in the 1st place.
        Last edited by DaNeutral.; 09-21-2019, 01:10 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
          Bull**** Wilder made it clear he wasn’t interested in a multi fight deal. First thing he mentioned after negotiations failed.
          Wilder made it clear he didnt want to fight thats for sure.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Fanofreason
            Dazn is not going to be in boxing much longer.

            These Dazn deals are never going to see their full maturity.

            Furthermore. Hearn has pissed off every US network.

            Anyone signed to Dazn or Matchroom are going to be without a US home in the near future.

            Is that the same DAZN that is crushing its competition this year as far as good cards go? You need to go back and re-read why DAZN are cutting back on the money they are dishing out cuz you have chosen to take the wrong end of that stick. You either dont understand business at all or you have chosen not to on this occasion to suit some weak narrative you and a few other sad twats are trying to push.

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              #26
              wilder is an honorable man. like the time he beat up a woman or a mentally handicapped man. honor

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                #27
                Originally posted by kafkod
                More lies. Wilder's excuse was that DAZN wouldn't tell him how much AJ would be payed.
                They think we forget, they think we are like the casuals who dont take too much interest and who are prepared to read the loudest headline lies. They think when enough time has passed they can lie about the facts cuz we wont of remembered what was said or offered. We we dont forget. This is the internet and everything stays there.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by champion4ever
                  Wow, your racial animus for Deontay Wilder in particular and black people in general knows no boundaries and is very toxic. Deontay Wilder's, Al Haymon's and the PBC's success must really burn you. You are really hurting on the inside. I feel very sorry for you. You have my deepest condolences.
                  Would you care to expand on my hatred for black people? Cuz this is worrying news for me and i think it will be a real shock to my family.

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                  • sicko
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                    #29
                    Based on how things played out...not only was the right move made from Wilder but he was SAVED from a AWFUL DEAL now looking at things and look at how this Ruiz rematch things played out

                    Wilder is making is money and is going to continue to make his money, this obsession about his money from fans who probably barely have money of their own is kinda laughable. Unless your Financially Successful yourself...Please STFU about Wilder Money and what he should or shouldn't do

                    Who the F#CK are any of us to try and tell guys who have made multi fighters Millionaires that "They Don't Know What They're Doing" when Financially most fans are Blue-Collar Worker (nothing wrong with it at all by the way) barely getting by but yet have a lot of say about boxers who are making MILLIONS upon MILLIONS every time they step into the ring

                    So yeah STFU, it doesn't matter who the F#CK Wilder is loyalty that is HIS BUSINESS and it doesn't effect you in anyway. Wilder is not struggling and will not be struggling financially anytime soon but can all fans say the same? Absolute Not!

                    Shelly Finkle, Al Haymon these guys have made many boxers MILLIONAIRES, they know WTF they're doing...I say the same for Bob Arum, Eddie and Barry Hearn and others. While SOME Fans we THINK we have the answers for these fighters when in actuality...WE DON'T KNOW SH#T!

                    If you know so much then OK, become an Adviser, Manager or Promoter...Go Ahead!
                    Last edited by sicko; 09-21-2019, 01:51 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      Based on how things played out...not only was the right move made from Wilder but he was SAVED from a AWFUL DEAL now looking at things and look at how this Ruiz rematch things played out

                      Wilder is making is money and is going to continue to make his money, this obsession about his money from fans who probably barely have money of their own is kinda laughable. Unless your Financially Successful yourself...Please STFU about Wilder Money and what he should or shouldn't do

                      Who the F#CK are any of us to try and tell guys who have made multi fighters Millionaires that "They Don't Know What They're Doing" when Financially most fans are Blue-Collar Worker (nothing wrong with it at all by the way) barely getting by but yet have a lot of say about boxers who are making MILLIONS upon MILLIONS every time they step into the ring

                      So yeah STFU, it doesn't matter who the F#CK Wilder is loyalty that is HIS BUSINESS and it doesn't effect you in anyway. Wilder is not struggling and will not be struggling financially anytime soon but can all fans say the same? Absolute Not!

                      Shelly Finkle, Al Haymon these guys have made many boxers MILLIONAIRES, they know WTF they're doing...I say the same for Bob Arum, Eddie and Barry Hearn and others. While SOME Fans we THINK we have the answers for these fighters when in actuality...WE DON'T KNOW SH#T!

                      If you know so much then OK, become an Adviser, Manager or Promoter...Go Ahead!
                      Ive never said they dont know what they are doing. They know exactly what they are doing, they are ducking Anthony joshua. The PBC and Showtime or Fox are different things.

                      If you take all the money out of the equation what are we left with? Wilder turning down fights with Joshua.

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