Rocky Marciano

[elfag]

just because your bf forgot to wear a condom dont take it out on Rocky

Compelling argument Beavis, thank you for your contributions to this thread

[Marchegiano]

The records of the guys he fought the year before he won the title:

8 8 1
4 14 3
13 15 1
11 14 2
34 1 2
30 13 1
66 2 0

7 fights that year and almost all of them complete bums. You talk him up like he walks on water. These were fights 31-37 for him. How is he fighting a guy with a 50% win ratio in his 31st fight? Oh but he stopped him.... oh gee you think? you think maybe thats why he was undefeated and has a high KO ratio because he is fighting janitors and cab drivers who were 8-8 and 4-14?


I just lol when people say Mayweather's 50-0 shouldnt count because McGreggor was #50. How many of these losing record factory workers then do we remove from Marciano's record then if that is the standard? Do you think McGreggor couldnt beat a guy who is 4-14 who works at a factory for a living? Atleast McGreggor had the benefit of a full training camp and didnt have to fight on his off day from the factory.

That's dumb as ****

7 fights in a year including stopping the great Joe Louis's comeback and Layne's title hopes.

9-5 favorite for that Layne fellow.


Had he only fought Layne and Louis you'd have nothing to cry about.


I dunno what the 50 rant is about....you are aware Mayweather is not a HW right? Also, I'm a Mayweather fan....yeah 50, whooo. Don't see yer point at all.

Yes, Conor McGregor would get his ass handed to him by a 4-14. Conor McGregor has yet to figure out how to punch through 10 ounce gloves. He's got no pop and got walked down by a defense master. He's a ****in' joke. Even bums can pop.


So what are you crying about? If you take away the bums his resume is more inline with present boxing. Fight twice a year, ones a good name, the other a great. Whooo. Conor McGregor is an 0-1 bum who whined about his ability to punch through boxing gloves, and his best punches were walked through by a guy who has been unwilling to walk through shots his entire career. Not even the KO Nation version of floyd walked right into a man like he did conor....because conor ain't ****.


Finally, people who sit and look at records are ****ty fans who love to pretend they know something when in fact their entire knowledge bank can be written off as surface.




If it's soo easy and Rocky was sooo lucky why the **** don't you have anyone else to compare him to but TBE Mayweather? Are you ****in' dense? Yeah, you know ya are dumbass.

[elfag]

That's dumb as ****

7 fights in a year including stopping the great Joe Louis's comeback and Layne's title hopes.

9-5 favorite for that Layne fellow.


Had he only fought Layne and Louis you'd have nothing to cry about.


I dunno what the 50 rant is about....you are aware Mayweather is not a HW right? Also, I'm a Mayweather fan....yeah 50, whooo. Don't see yer point at all.

Yes, Conor McGregor would get his ass handed to him by a 4-14. Conor McGregor has yet to figure out how to punch through 10 ounce gloves. He's got no pop and got walked down by a defense master. He's a ****in' joke. Even bums can pop.


So what are you crying about? If you take away the bums his resume is more inline with present boxing. Fight twice a year, ones a good name, the other a great. Whooo. Conor McGregor is an 0-1 bum who whined about his ability to punch through boxing gloves, and his best punches were walked through by a guy who has been unwilling to walk through shots his entire career. Not even the KO Nation version of floyd walked right into a man like he did conor....because conor ain't ****.


Finally, people who sit and look at records are ****ty fans who love to pretend they know something when in fact their entire knowledge bank can be written off as surface.




If it's soo easy and Rocky was sooo lucky why the **** don't you have anyone else to compare him to but TBE Mayweather? Are you ****in' dense? Yeah, you know ya are dumbass.

- Marciano is known for his undefeated 49-0 record. Point is he racket that up against guys with a losing record.

-He only faced elite competition the last 4 years of his career. That is from ages 28-32. The rest of his career was absolute horrendous competition.

Louis was 37 years old. That is old as hell. That was the age of fat Lewis retiring and ancient Larry Holmes was 38 when he lost vs Tyson.

Does Tyson get that much credit for beating ancient Larry Holmes? No because everyone expected it. But Marciano beating ancient Louis is some kind of crowning achievement.

Then you got his 3 years and 6 defenses of the title where his primary wins are against former light heavies. whoop de do.

Again did Tyson get much credit for blasting out Spinks? Not really.

Marciano gets highly rated while his record is no better than Tysons.

Why bring up TBE? because there was consistent talk on the boards at the time that Mayweather beat Marciano's record. And it is NOT a heavyweight record. Its over all divisions. everyone with boxing knowledge knows this.

[Mooshashi]

His last fight with Archie Moore, was definitely fixed. Moore was told to go in the tank, and that he would secure a legitimate shot after Rocky retired. Which is exactly what happened.

If you were going to throw a fight, would you A) knock down your opponent B) take severe punishment, take multiple knockdowns, rather than just get hit a couple times and fall down.

Just asking.

[QueensburyRules]

- Marciano is known for his undefeated 49-0 record. Point is he racket that up against guys with a losing record.

-He only faced elite competition the last 4 years of his career. That is from ages 28-32. The rest of his career was absolute horrendous competition.

Louis was 37 years old. That is old as hell. That was the age of fat Lewis retiring and ancient Larry Holmes was 38 when he lost vs Tyson.

- -Retired Lewie and tubby Lar weren't ranked.

Louis was highly ranked.

What grade you in this year?

[Marchegiano]

- Marciano is known for his undefeated 49-0 record. Point is he racket that up against guys with a losing record.

-He only faced elite competition the last 4 years of his career. That is from ages 28-32. The rest of his career was absolute horrendous competition.

Louis was 37 years old. That is old as hell. That was the age of fat Lewis retiring and ancient Larry Holmes was 38 when he lost vs Tyson.

Does Tyson get that much credit for beating ancient Larry Holmes? No because everyone expected it. But Marciano beating ancient Louis is some kind of crowning achievement.

Then you got his 3 years and 6 defenses of the title where his primary wins are against former light heavies. whoop de do.

Again did Tyson get much credit for blasting out Spinks? Not really.

Marciano gets highly rated while his record is no better than Tysons.

Why bring up TBE? because there was consistent talk on the boards at the time that Mayweather beat Marciano's record. And it is NOT a heavyweight record. Its over all divisions. everyone with boxing knowledge knows this.

Only obliterated the elites right before he retired....um....okay. If right now all of a sudden Pulev just whooped Povetkin, then Josh, then Wilder, then Andy, and retired after KOing Fury, not only would you praise him but the whole ****in' forum would be on fire over this great HW.

It's another short sighted and ****** point.

Sounds like you're just voicing frustrations more than anything. I'm a Tyson fan too....lost by the point. Some don't give Larry credit. I could point out Larry was coming off back-to-back losses, but, honestly, that'd just be being flippant for argument's sake because I reckon Holmes is one of Mike's better wins.

If you're asking is an older Louis meant to be a better win than an older Holmes the answer is yes. Firstly, Louis achieved more, secondly Louis wasn't losing when Marciano KO'd him.

5'11" 75"

6' 73"

5'10" 68"

Those LHWs, one being the former champion at HW and the other being to this day the KO king of boxing, were both bigger than Marciano. It's another dumbass point.

I give Tyson credit for ****ing up Spinks.

Why bring up TBE? because there was consistent talk on the boards at the time that Mayweather beat Marciano's record. And it is NOT a heavyweight record. Its over all divisions. everyone with boxing knowledge knows this.

You're ****ing with me? I told you, you is surface:


Ricardo Lopez, 51-0
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/521

Jimmy Barry 58-0
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/46200


Take this lesson and go learn something. Sitting around on boxrec ain't going to even teach you the names to put into boxrec to learn the **** you brag about not only you knowing but everyone with some knowledge.

Have a good day now son

[Marchegiano]

...forgot to mention, at 925ft-lbs Rocky Marciano is also one of the hardest hitting heavyweights ever recorded, and the hardest hitting HW ever recorded in standard scientific notation.

What I mean is foot-pounds are used to measure the energy of projectiles. Firearms are measured in ft-lbs as a standard. Take for example Francis Ngannou's "world record" at 129,161 units. 129,000 certainly is alot more than 925, but an ft-lbs is a real unit of measurement whereas a "unit" is made up bull****.

Why would measure kinetic energy using electronics rather than physics? Or, let me say that differently, why would you take a kinetic measurement, convert is to an electrical measurement, and then back to a kinetic measurement? The simple answer is you wouldn't if you looking for a useable reading.

I can measure your punching power in Kilowatt Hours. Does that really give you any idea how hard you hit? **** no, it tells you how long the energy in your punch an sustain a light bulb.

You would measure kinetic energy by physical means, using physics, it's kind of a duh. The only reason you see electronic punching machines is because they're promotional and set up to output the highest possible figure, Which is where the lovely, vague as ****, term "units" comes in.

Units is nothing, or everything rather, anything can be units. ft-lbs is units, so are Kw/Hrs, a Newton is a unit....so is an inch. A unit is so vague it doesn't even describe the form of measurement.

PSI is at least a real measurement but it's a pressure measurement, not a measurement of energy, force, or power. You can have high pressure and low energy, it's called a pillow fight. High pressure but low energy in the form of a punch would be an ill structured punch that caused the energy to absorbed by the puncher rather than the punched. Like how a pillow absorbs its own energy while still delivering pressure.

Marciano's 925 ft-lbs isn't just insanely powerful, A Colt 45 shoots for 537ft-lbs just to give you some reference, but also, beyond being an inhuman amount of energy for a man to have in his fist it's also the highest energy measurement ever recorded from a single punch. All in those tiny t-rex arms.

[ShoulderRoll]

You're ****ing with me? I told you, you is surface:


Ricardo Lopez, 51-0
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/521

Jimmy Barry 58-0
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/46200


Take this lesson and go learn something. Sitting around on boxrec ain't going to even teach you the names to put into boxrec to learn the **** you brag about not only you knowing but everyone with some knowledge.

Have a good day now son

Both Ricardo Lopez and Jimmy Barry have draws.

The record for the most wins without a loss or tie in a career by a world champion (among all divisions) is currently held by Floyd.

[Ascended]

Rock fought in a novice era compared to 70s-90s

[Century Tuna]

Rock fought in a novice era compared to 70s-90s

Yo, I feel you, man. Boxing game done changed big time from Rocky Marciano's days to the 70s-90s. Fighters stepped up their game, techniques got hella polished, and the competition went through the roof, no doubt. Things got real intense, no cap.