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Originally posted by Century Tuna View PostMost overrated HW fighter of all time IMO
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Originally posted by Century Tuna View PostRocky fought past over the hill former champ. What he did to Joe Louis he should have been put in jail
The odds were actually pretty close with 37 year old Louis the slight favorite. He outweighed Marciano by nearly 30 pounds.
No, Lewis/Tyson was a bigger crime.
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This is a ****** thread.
Champion
Former champion
Former-former champion
LHW champion
British champion
IBU champion
LaStarza - the hopeful from the Bronx and guard pioneer
Layne - Mid-west hopeful and Ring's pick for next HW champion
Matthews - western hopeful with a 55+ streak stopped by Marciano
3x Fighter of the year
3x Fight of the year
If it was anyone else we'd regard the Charles win as epic, but, since it's Marciano a man with a full career's worth experience over him while being a peer in age is considered a bad win. That **** makes sense. If Wilder KO'd Povetkin right now we'd act like that's a good win for Wilder despite Pov actually being older, having a full career's experience, and having never been a real world champion.
If it was now we'd regard the Matthews win as important, but, since it's history, no one gives a **** about the prospect who stacked 55+ wins in a row. Just another bum who never did anything.
LaStarza comes before Ali, rope-a-dope is how Roland fought, not just a tactic for Foreman. If he wasn't a Marciano victim we'd recognize it. Instead we just act like Ali pulled that out of his ass and no one ever used ropes and guard to limit damage before him.
Don ****ell had never lost at HW prior.
Joe Louis was on another win streak, Marciano didn't even want that fight, it was forced by them both doing very well.
Archie Moore went on to position himself against Ali not one but two generations of boxers removed from Marciano.
One of the highest KO percentages the game ever saw
Knows nothing of a draw
Retired 13 men
excuses like weak eras run thin when no one else's weak era allows any sort of comparable stats. Wlad had a weak era and still never put on a performance like the Suzie Q. Not one sequence of worth his entire career. Primo had a weak era and still did not manage to do as much damage, crush as many dreams, or topple as many greats during the height of their careers.
Been a long time since the Queensberry Marquis went into effect. Been plenty of weak eras in that time. Why is the Rock the one undefeated heavyweight in all that time?
***** ass *****es get jealous of the legendary run that was Marciano.
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He started late in boxing and had crude skills compared to other heavyweight greats.
Most boxing insiders of his day always viewed him that way.
It's only these days that revisionists want to elevate him into something more than he was.
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Originally posted by Century Tuna View PostI stand corrected. sorry got mixed up on my head but what i meant about 27. it was April 27 ,1956 rocky retires to boxing. Marciano didn't fight nobody but bums from the bar, and a few old grandads passed their prime.
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His resume is atrocious.
Defended the title 6 times. Held title for 3 years before quitting at 32 years old.
The year before he won the title he fought 3 guys with losing records, more losses than wins, club level tomato can fighters.
Could you imagine if Ruiz fought 3 guys just last year with losing records?
Thats how it was in those days. People talk inflated resumes today but you want to see true trash, just look at Marciano's record.
There are actually people here who rate his record above Mayweather's, they are complete jokes as boxing fans.
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Originally posted by Marchegiano View PostOne of the highest KO percentages the game ever saw
The records of the guys he fought the year before he won the title:
8 8 1
4 14 3
13 15 1
11 14 2
34 1 2
30 13 1
66 2 0
7 fights that year and almost all of them complete bums. You talk him up like he walks on water. These were fights 31-37 for him. How is he fighting a guy with a 50% win ratio in his 31st fight? Oh but he stopped him.... oh gee you think? you think maybe thats why he was undefeated and has a high KO ratio because he is fighting janitors and cab drivers who were 8-8 and 4-14?
I just lol when people say Mayweather's 50-0 shouldnt count because McGreggor was #50. How many of these losing record factory workers then do we remove from Marciano's record then if that is the standard? Do you think McGreggor couldnt beat a guy who is 4-14 who works at a factory for a living? Atleast McGreggor had the benefit of a full training camp and didnt have to fight on his off day from the factory.Last edited by elfag; 09-21-2019, 03:09 PM.
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostWell said.
And a bunch of posts in here also said it well.
Rocky is deservedly one of the greatest ever. To be always undersized and outbox and dominate offensively everyone you face...he had high ring IQ and would break anyone down, and had godly power.
Undersized against whom? The factory workers and milkmen? Because his best wins were all against former light heavies and 37 year old Joe Lewis.
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