How hard is it to accept when your favorite ducks another fighter?

[amagnin]

True Spinks was running in the Karmazin fight at the end, I think because a lack of condition. With that said, its not unfeasible to think he couldnt outbox delahoya for the same reasons u said earlier ( his injuries, him being older, and his ability to last 12 rounds) spinks runs and starts to lose momentum at the end of fights, but Delahoya might just be tired as hell too at the end of the fight which could allow Spinks to pull it out. Also, i never said Spinks hurt Mayorga, I was implying that he punches hard enough to stop Mayorga from just mopping him up. say what u want about Karmazin, but he beat Ouma, who beat Phillips. Bottom line, Spinks beat the man of 154 division!

And I am not taking anything away from Cory. He has some nice wins on his resume and I was impressed that he could beat strong punchers like Zab and Mayorga. But I just don't want to see Floyd fight him right now. It could be interesting down the road, just not right now. I would like to see Spinks take on Rivera and unify some belts, especially after hearing how Kevin Cunningham disrespected Rivera on **********. And I think DLH KO's him with a well placed left hook. If Spinks couldn't handle Karamzin's power (he was visibly shaken in the 2nd round), he wouldn't be able to handle DLH's. That is just my opinion. My real claim is that 154 is no place for Floyd if he cares about his undefeated record. Fight at your prime weight or close to it. I think if he weighs in on fight night at 146 that he is maxed out.

[scap]

are you some kind of ****ing idiot, i give 2 ****s about the ****ing burrito shop and i give 2 ****s what you think idiot. i'm not here to discuss where someones lives and if they like it i'm talking about boxing hence the word boxingscene. i can tell you one thing you won't talk that **** while your here. so get a life you ****ing loser. the fighting city of seattle now that's the joke of the day.

How can you talk like this too me?

Here I was trying to do a little contributing to the York economy and your bashing me for it?

I have been to York so I have a good idea of what you look like and your right I probably wouldnt mess with you...you folks from York look like you got nothin to lose.

Lets stop the bickering and be good solid friends...deal...if Kenny Keane looks good on saturday do you think he deserves a shot at the title?

[AllEyesOpen]

It would be a mistake for him to fight anybody but DLH at 154. DLH is not young anymore, has injuries, and started at a lower weight. Nonetheless it is still dangerous because Floyd will be slower and less powerful. If Floyd fights Winky at 154... he will lose decisively. Floyd's best advantage against Winky would be speed and ability to avoid his jab. But Winky will be taller and stronger than Floyd at 154 and his defense is pretty damn good. Floyd would be smart not to venture to 154, as his best weight is 140. Venturing to 147 is risky enough... 154 is asking for trouble.

I don't see any risk at 147, I'm fairly certain he'd beat anyone at WW, If a fighter who's a natural 130/135 lbs fighter, & can contend at 154 it would cement his legacy, he's definatly going to fight DLH, but if he beats Winky(which if anyone can, it's Floyd) it would silence all the critics, i honestly belive that the only true challenges to PBF unbeaten record are at 154(or Mosley at 147).

[amagnin]

Oh and I have never accused Floyd of ducking. I am often the voice of reason on these boards that says a lot of fights don't get made and nobody is ducking anyone. The term duck should be reserved for situations like Joe Calzaghe and RJJ who never fought and will never fight even though it was a match up that the fans and media wanted and they both were deserving opponents of one another.

[amagnin]

I don't see any risk at 147, I'm fairly certain he'd beat anyone at WW, If a fighter who's a natural 130/135 lbs fighter, & can contend at 154 it would cement his legacy, he's definatly going to fight DLH, but if he beats Winky(which if anyone can, it's Floyd) it would silence all the critics, i honestly belive that the only true challenges to PBF unbeaten record are at 154(or Mosley at 147).

I agree with that... beating Winky would be the ultimate legacy fight and would prove he is one of the best p4p all time. But the things that I like about Floyd would be lessened or dampered. I love his great speed and fluid combinations... look what happened to Shane as he kept moving up. That being said I also love a Mayweather-Mosley fight at 147. Very interesting although I think Floyd wins a UD.

[AllEyesOpen]

I agree with that... beating Winky would be the ultimate legacy fight and would prove he is one of the best p4p all time. But the things that I like about Floyd would be lessened or dampered. I love his great speed and fluid combinations... look what happened to Shane as he kept moving up. That being said I also love a Mayweather-Mosley fight at 147. Very interesting although I think Floyd wins a UD.

Agreed on Mosley/Mayweather, but It wouldn't be easy. & we honestly haven't seen what shape Mayweather would be at 154, how his speed & agility would be effected, after seeing Mosley demolish Vargas, I'd say Mayweather would look about the same or better. Personally speaking the thing I like most about Floyd is his ring intelligence, He can figure out what it'll take to beat you & he'll hit you with it all night, that's why at the top of my list is PBF/DLH, to very inteligent fighter in the ring.

[cortdawg25]

I don't see any risk at 147, I'm fairly certain he'd beat anyone at WW, If a fighter who's a natural 130/135 lbs fighter, & can contend at 154 it would cement his legacy, he's definatly going to fight DLH, but if he beats Winky(which if anyone can, it's Floyd) it would silence all the critics, i honestly belive that the only true challenges to PBF unbeaten record are at 154(or Mosley at 147).

Oscar aint going to fight Floyd, if Floyd keeps on winning, Oscar will stay retired.

[amagnin]

Agreed on Mosley/Mayweather, but It wouldn't be easy. & we honestly haven't seen what shape Mayweather would be at 154, how his speed & agility would be effected, after seeing Mosley demolish Vargas, I'd say Mayweather would look about the same or better. Personally speaking the thing I like most about Floyd is his ring intelligence, He can figure out what it'll take to beat you & he'll hit you with it all night, that's why at the top of my list is PBF/DLH, to very inteligent fighter in the ring.

I can dig that. But I honestly haven't been that impressed overall with Shane at 154. To me he clearly is best at 147 or lower. At 147 he might have beaten Winky and at 140 he might have beaten Forrest. I think people say that those guys had Shane's number but I think a large part of that was the weight gain. Except the 1st Forrest fight in which Shane got rocked and just never recovered (his corner wasn't all too helpful that night either, I thought Jack might have a concussion too).

[AllEyesOpen]

I can dig that. But I honestly haven't been that impressed overall with Shane at 154. To me he clearly is best at 147 or lower. At 147 he might have beaten Winky and at 140 he might have beaten Forrest. I think people say that those guys had Shane's number but I think a large part of that was the weight gain. Except the 1st Forrest fight in which Shane got rocked and just never recovered (his corner wasn't all too helpful that night either, I thought Jack might have a concussion too).

Well, we should just wait & see who his next opponent is & at what weight, cause Mayweather ain't Mosley, I think he'd look better then Mosley at 154, I can imagine that speed would be similar. Also Dawg, I think DLH will fight Mayweather; win, lose, or draw he can say he ended his career against the best p4p fighter in the world, how many fighters could say that, besides DLH would have an advantage at that weight, unless Floyd proves otherwise before they meet.

[amagnin]

Well, we should just wait & see who his next opponent is & at what weight, cause Mayweather ain't Mosley, I think he'd look better then Mosley at 154, I can imagine that speed would be similar. Also Dawg, I think DLH will fight Mayweather; win, lose, or draw he can say he ended his career against the best p4p fighter in the world, how many fighters could say that, besides DLH would have an advantage at that weight, unless Floyd proves otherwise before they meet.

I think DLH will fight him at 154 as long as Floyd is still undefeated. But I could see him retiring because DLH himself rose to super-star status by beating older heroes of the sport (Whitaker and Chavez) and he doesn't want to be Floyd's stepping stone. Plus I can't really believe that Mayweather Sr. really wants to train DLH for the fight. Can you actually hate your son (I know you can hate your dad)?