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  • Robi13
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    #251
    Originally posted by yankees7448
    Fans should want to see the best fights. If a guy wins a middleweight belt then defend the middleweight belt. No true fan of the sport should be ok with that Canelo-weight nonsense.

    Only trolls celebrate someone playing the "I'm the A-side card". Real fans just want to see the fights.
    but it’s ok for ggg and his team to claim something to the public and do the opposite? Ok keep being lied too lol

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    • TonyGe
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      #252
      Originally posted by Robi13
      yes canelo eventually did go to 160 but your boy had to wait till the a side was ready, I’m not upset because it was ggg who said anyone from 54-68 and didn’t keep his word not canelo... it’s just funny that you gggroupies then turn around and accuse canelo of ducking or aging ggg when ggg could of just been a good boy and acted his b side part and went to 55... I mean it was ggg who said 55-68 right? So if the fight wasn’t delivered to you gggroupies time approval you only have your daddy triple jab to blame, no one else
      Yeah he waited and Canelo who was the Challenger made him wait as long as he could to age him. It's pretty obvious that was the strategy from the Canelo camp reviewing Canelo's habit of taking on known fighters that were past prime. Canelo wanted to fight him at a catchweight but since Golovkin didn't cave he took the I'm not ready for 160 route. As far as when the fight happened that's up to the two fighters. I'm not upset about when it happened but if you are saying Golovkin ducked Canelo at a catchweight it simply not true. Golovkin made it plain that any fight with Canelo would be with him coming in at 160. Canelo can come in lighter if he wants. Duran fought Hagler when he weighed in a few pounds lighter than 160. He did very well considering his age and wear and tear. Canelo the younger faster defensive wizard superstar could have done the same against the slow plodding low ring IQ Golovkin but declined. According to your logic cutting a few pounds is not a big deal if it's Golovkin. However requiring Canelo to put on a few or none is an affront to boxing. LOL..

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      • strykr619
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        #253
        Originally posted by Senor_frogs
        “Leftovers” The logic of a 5 year old. (Sight)
        That's your best refutation? Calling someone a 5 year old? Its ok I'll accept your tacit acknowledgement that your taking an L on this one.

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        • jackblack008
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          #254
          Earn what ???

          Canelo Lost both fights. 2nd one was closer. But then Canelo went on fight Jacobs and schooled him. Now he is fighting Kovalev.
          GGG on other hand fought tomato cans.
          Last edited by jackblack008; 09-12-2019, 10:49 AM.

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          • 4truth
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            #255
            Originally posted by jackblack008
            Earn what ???

            Canelo Lost both fights. 2nd one was closer. But then Canelo went on fight Jacobs and schooled him. Now he is fighting Kovalev.
            GGG on other hand fought tomato cans.
            more accurately...
            Canelo went on fight Jacobs and drained him. Now he is draining Kovalev.
            GGG on other hand is fighting to earn the IBF MW title with no special weigh in rules outside of those prescribed by the IBF.

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            • yankees7448
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              #256
              Originally posted by Robi13
              but it’s ok for ggg and his team to claim something to the public and do the opposite? Ok keep being lied too lol
              He didn't do the opposite. I listed all the fights he tried to make. Canelo is a guy he fought twice and didn't have to deal with that catchweight nonsense. He got the "A-side" to give in on weight. And you're still whining about it.

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              • j.razor
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                #257
                Originally posted by richardt
                The media and boxing world did not see Jacobs as a star nor was there a huge controversy about the outcome, nor was the rematch considered a superfight. Huge difference. And the fact is, GGG did not turn up dirty on a test, period. Only a fool would believe that if GGG had turned up dirty that the boxing world would not have been in outrage.
                It wasn't as huge as you say cuz the media down played it just like they created the controversy saying Pvssy-G got robbed which he didn't, Nelo was robbed in the 1st fight & if Pvssy-G did get caught dirty then it would be mentioned then swept under the rug.
                Last edited by j.razor; 09-13-2019, 09:48 AM.

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                • lieutenant
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by 4truth
                  more accurately...
                  Canelo went on fight Jacobs and drained him. Now he is draining Kovalev.
                  GGG on other hand is fighting to earn the IBF MW title with no special weigh in rules outside of those prescribed by the IBF.
                  Why do you keep repeating this, it's obvious misinformation. He did not drain Jacobs, he ignored the rehydration limit and paid the fine, like everyone expected him too. It was an obvious ploy to extract some money from him because Golden Boy had leverage. He had to abide by the same rules to win the IBF title vs Derevianchenko.

                  You do know that it's the IBF that requires a second day weigh in? The following is from the IBF website itself.
                  There shall be a second day weigh-in held between 8:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m on the
                  morning of the event, unless otherwise approved by the IBF. The promoter of the event
                  shall arrange for the use of the scale at the prearranged time and location for the second
                  day weigh-in. At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than ten (10) pounds over the
                  weight limit. If a boxer weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, he will
                  have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight. If after two (2) hours he
                  still weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, the fight can proceed as
                  described above in section 2. If the Champion fails to appear for the second day weighin, the title will be vacated. If the Challenger fails to appear for the second day weigh-in,
                  the fight may be staged with the understanding that the Champion shall retain his title
                  whether he wins or loses the bout.

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                  • 4truth
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                    #259
                    Originally posted by lieutenant
                    Why do you keep repeating this, it's obvious misinformation. He did not drain Jacobs, he ignored the rehydration limit and paid the fine, like everyone expected him too. It was an obvious ploy to extract some money from him because Golden Boy had leverage. He had to abide by the same rules to win the IBF title vs Derevianchenko.

                    You do know that it's the IBF that requires a second day weigh in? The following is from the IBF website itself.


                    If the two weigh-ins and rehydration cap wasn’t enough, there was also a penalty in place of a $250,000 fine per pound Jacobs went over.

                    After the fight, Jacobs’ promoter Hearn confirmed that the request was utterly Canelo’s idea and not anything to do with the middleweight division requirements.
                    ^^referring to the fact that these IBF 2nd day weigh in requirements are not in effect for unification fights.

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                    • lieutenant
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by 4truth
                      https://www.givemesport.com/1473452-...fight-contract



                      ^^referring to the fact that these IBF 2nd day weigh in requirements are not in effect for unification fights.
                      You're naive to think Golden Boy didn't know he was going to blow past the second day weigh in. Jacobs is on record saying that was the plan all along in the GGG fight. This was the smart move by Golden Boy, they had leverage. Not only did they gain a financial advantage, but a psychological one as well.

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