After Pacquiao Beats Spence and/or Crawford. Where would u rank him?

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  • champion4ever
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    #61
    I don't wanna see Pac fight Erroll Spence. I would like to see him retire. Spence is going to put a serious beating and hurting on the Pacman; To the point of it being a very horrible and dreadful sight to see.

    Our heroes are mortal after all. Manny is no longer forever young. He would turn 41 next year and will be going on 42 by the time he fights Spence.

    I could see Spence retiring Manny on his stool because I don't believe that Freddie Roach would allow Pac to absorb too much punishment in that bout.
    Last edited by champion4ever; 09-09-2019, 08:57 AM.

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      #62
      GrandPac beating at least one of them at this point is 99.99% impossible... Should he miraculously beat one, he'll be Top 10, no doubt... If both, he'll be arguably Top 5...

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        #63
        Originally posted by thedarkdragon11
        GrandPac beating at least one of them at this point is 99.99% impossible... Should he miraculously beat one, he'll be Top 10, no doubt... If both, he'll be arguably Top 5...
        That’s what they said about Thurman...and he smashed Thurman.

        People can say this and that all day long, but we’ll find out come fight night.

        PAC TOP 5 ATG

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        • Joe Beamish
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          #64
          Originally posted by FredRekk
          That’s what they said about Thurman...and he smashed Thurman.

          People can say this and that all day long, but we’ll find out come fight night.

          PAC TOP 5 ATG
          Wasn't Pac favored to beat Thurman?

          At any rate, today's Thurman is a very long ways from Spence and Crawford.

          So we're talking "IF" Pacquaio beats those guys. Hasn't happened yet.

          Just a friendly reminder.

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          • hugh grant
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            #65
            Originally posted by Joe Beamish

            At any rate, today's Thurman is a very long ways from Spence and Crawford.

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            Pac s top 3 atg. He doesn't need to beat spence or crawfird. It don't matter if you think Crawford or spence are better than thurman or not. That is only an idea, but the reality being spence/Crawford unable to boast a win over thurman, so people will get tired very quickly of hearing that thurman
            is a long way from spence and crawford and that they are so damn good! If you said horn is better than pac, people would laugh, but at least horn can boast a win over pac. Can't say that about crawford/spence. So implying spence/Crawford is better than thurman is more laughable than saying horn is better than.pac.
            Sri and srr wouldn't beat crawford or spence when they were 41 years old so why does Pac have to? Always people putting up imaginary barriers up for pac
            Last edited by hugh grant; 09-09-2019, 10:23 AM.

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              #66
              Originally posted by BKM-
              Again, Pacquiao took chances and dared to be great. Floyd was all about protecting his perfect 0 and that's why his legacy suffered. Pac's less than handful of lapses in concentration in 71(!) professional fights spanning nearly 25 years aren't an argument against his legacy. In fact he is about as old school as it gets for a modern great, with his activity, longevity and not ducking challenges he gets a pass for losses just like other greats who had losses through their primes.

              I think his record is astonishing considering the timespan and level of competition and how many times he went up in weight. He loses when he's somewhat green against an ATG Morales which he avenges twice, then 7 years later when he's no longer at his peak he gets robbed(according to vast majority of boxing) and later gets caught in a fight he was winning against another ATG who he's 2-1-1 against(should be 3-1 if it wasn't for the incorrect scorecard in the first fight). Years past his prime he gets robbed against Horn and loses to another ATG in a close fight, kudos to Floyd for that one.

              I don't think Floyd would be unbeaten if he took the same chances in the fights he took and the way he fought. We've seen him badly hurt and almost lose on the scorecards several times. He never fullfilled his true potential like Pacquiao that's why he's not above him in ATG rankings.
              Floyd beat Pac, Floyd has never been kod or lost a fight. That’s all that I need to write. I ain’t dissin Pac. He’s just not rated as high as Floyd.

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #67
                Originally posted by strykr619
                Ali has been dropped plenty of times, doesn't change the fact that he is the HW GOAT. Your argument means nothing.
                Being dropped doesn’t mean a thing. Being kod 3 times does.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Keep believing yourself that no one thinks that pac is greater than floyd... Max kellerman who is a floyd nughugger and a certified pac hater couldn't deny pac greatness and even considered pac as the LB4LB GOAT... Sorry that's the truth...
                  Historians all rate Floyd higher than Pac.

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                  • BoxingTrav
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by pasawayako
                    Keep believing yourself... .

                    Even floyd nuthugger(max kellerman) a certified pac hater couldn't deny pac's greatness and considered pac a much better lb4lb than floyd.
                    Max Kellerman is a Floyd hater. LOL Stop the lies

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Historians all rate Floyd higher than Pac.
                      Prove it? Was a poll made the day after jmm koed pac, or was it the day after Floyd beat pac!
                      Time has moved on. It would surprise most if floyd was above pac

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