After Pacquiao Beats Spence and/or Crawford. Where would u rank him?

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  • Ganondorf
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    #121
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    The decade Manny won FOTD, Floyd had a better record. Manny's FOTD is like Karl Malone's MVP's when Jordan was playing. Yes Manny and Malone won the award, but in the end Jordan and Floyd proved they were better when they faced each other.

    He's beaten many of the same fighters Manny has and also beat 2 guys, Manny and Canelo, that are better than anyone Manny has ever faced. He's defeated 8-10 HOF'ers and has never lost. Can Manny say the same? No.

    If you were able to look at things objectively you'd understand this is a major reason why Manny is always ranked behind Floyd. Doesn't mean Manny has never accomplished anything nor that his accomplishments aren't worth praise and recognition.

    Why do you think they always rank Floyd ahead of Manny?
    Because he thinks they are “fanboys”. You are wasting a lot of energy arguing with this guy. I would have stopped right there. Lol
    Last edited by Ganondorf; 09-18-2019, 12:55 PM.

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    • hugh grant
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      #122
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      He's beaten many of the same fighters Manny has and also beat 2 guys, Manny and Canelo, that are better than anyone Manny has ever faced. He's defeated 8-10 HOF'ers and has never lost. Can Manny say the same? No.

      If you were able to look at things objectively you'd understand this is a major reason why Manny is always ranked behind Floyd

      Why do you think they always rank Floyd ahead of Manny?
      You are just a blatant liat or twister of facts.
      He's beaten many of the people Pac beat? What's that supposed to mean? Pac being smaller beat common opponents more dominant and impressively or more times is what you mean isn't it.?

      The names who rank Floyd higher than pac are by and large annonymous. Barrera, morales, jmm are just as experts as these few anonymous experts and even more credible..
      More people in earth think Pac is greater and it's not close. I know you try ignore this like it don't bother you but trust me it does.

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        #123
        Originally posted by hugh grant
        You are just a blatant liat or twister of facts.
        He's beaten many of the people Pac beat? What's that supposed to mean? Pac being smaller beat common opponents more dominant and impressively or more times is what you mean isn't it.?

        The names who rank Floyd higher than pac are by and large annonymous. Barrera, morales, jmm are just as experts as these few anonymous experts and even more credible..
        More people in earth think Pac is greater and it's not close. I know you try ignore this like it don't bother you but trust me it does.
        Huh? They were both smaller than ODH, Shane, and Cotto. Floyd was smaller than Canelo. Manny was the same size as JMM. He didn't beat them more impressively. Take ODH for instance-Floyd beat a healthy 154 lb ODH, not a drained 147 lb ODH. Floyd beat Cotto at a full 154lbs, not a drained 145 lbs. They both beat Shane at the same weight.

        You haven't polled most people on earth so you come off as retarded trying to pass that statement off as fact.

        So according to you boxing experts and historians are either fanboys or anonymous, even though they give their names and they all use the same criteria to rank fighters. They have spent much of their adult lives covering boxing in one capacity or another. Yet their opinion doesn't count because they have Floyd ahead of Manny.

        Son you have absolutely no credibility.

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          #124
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          You haven't polled most people on earth so you come off as retarded trying to pass that statement off as fact.

          So according to you boxing experts and historians are either fanboys or anonymous, even though they give their names and they all use the same criteria to rank fighters. They have spent much of their adult lives covering boxing in one capacity or another. Yet their opinion doesn't count because they have Floyd ahead of Manny.

          Son you have absolutely no credibility.
          Give me the names of the experts who rank Floyd higher than pac and when they ranked Floyd above pac? Was it the day after jmm koed pac?
          And after you let us know when they ranked Floyd above pac, let us know if they today rank Floyd above pac, things change. People change. Opinions change.
          Pac s had quite the career since Floyd beat the bertos, McGregor and tenshins.
          If you could give me the nationality of the experts and what country they live that would be helpful? I'm afraid if the experts are American and live in America they're Floyd fanboys in afraid
          Last edited by hugh grant; 09-18-2019, 03:21 PM.

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            #125
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Give me the names of the experts who rank Floyd higher than pac and when they ranked Floyd above pac? Was it the day after jmm koed pac?
            And after you let us know when they ranked Floyd above pac, let us know if they today rank Floyd above pac, things change. People change. Opinions change.
            Pac s had quite the career since Floyd beat the bertos, McGregor and tenshins.
            If you could give me the nationality of the experts and what country they live that would be helpful? I'm afraid if the experts are American and live in America they're Floyd fanboys in afraid
            The rankings have been posted on this site a number of times with the names of the voters. You've seen them and commented in those threads so no need to pretend they do not exist. No it wasn't the day after JMM beat Pac. Manny was never was ahead of Floyd, always behind him in the p4p rankings except when Floyd was retired.

            You are well aware the voters are not all from America.

            Floyd beat Berto Sept 2015, 4 months after beating Manny. Since Sept 2015 Manny is 5-1 with wins over Bradley, Vargas, Loss to Horn, Matthysse, Broner , Thurman.

            Surely you aren't suggesting beating this resume elevates him past Floyd.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 09-18-2019, 02:52 PM.

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              #126
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              The rankings have been posted on this site a number of times with the names of the voters. You've seen them and commented in those threads so no need to pretend they do not exist. No it wasn't the day after JMM beat Pac. Manny was never was ahead of Floyd, always behind him in the p4p rankings except when Floyd was retired.

              You are well aware the voters are not all from America.

              Floyd beat Berto Sept 2015, 4 months after beating Manny. Since Sept 2015 Manny is 5-1 with wins over Bradley, Vargas, Loss to Horn, Matthysse, Broner , Thurman.

              Surely you aren't suggesting beating this resume elevates him past Floyd.
              I can name barrera, jmm, morakes, kellerman rank Pac above Floyd in blink of eye. Why couldn't you do it? Th ese unbiased names I've supplied are unbiased experts whose opinions people respect.

              I thought you'd do it enthusiasticly to prove your idea unbiased experts have Floyd above pac today in 2019. It has to be 2019 because people's opinions change from year to year, month to month, week to week or even day to day.
              Although floyd for a long time was perceived to be no1 pfp wise, Pac s always been considered to have the better resume. Boxing scene forum polls will confirm that. But as we know just by looking at today's pfp rankings, you don't really need the best resume, or to have beat the best fighters to be no1 pfp.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-19-2019, 08:39 AM.

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