After Pacquiao Beats Spence and/or Crawford. Where would u rank him?

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  • pasawayako
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    #21
    Originally posted by FredRekk
    He’d Definitely have to be number 1 or 2 ATG.
    Manny Ali or Muhammed Pacquiao.
    Haters will hail him as the GOAT of the GOAT wether they like it or not....

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      #22
      I'd definitely rank him better but still behind floyd. And besides I dont see him fighting either one of those guys. When was the last time he fought someone in their prime and won?

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        #23
        It would be an astonishing achievement. Why? Because of his age, and because it would be a return to his best form after struggling years ago against the likes of Jeff 'Who?'' Horn.

        But for me, being an ATG is all about P4P H2H. You can rack up all sorts of different achievements - and I'd argue that they lead you to the HOF, but don't necessarily change where you stand on the ATG lists.

        It is like Bernard Hopkins. He had otherworldly longevity. It helps build his case for the HOF (which was already a lock anyway) but it doesn't put him over RJJ in the ATG stakes.

        I can't put Manny ahead of Floyd - because on the P4P H2H scale, he loses every time.

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        • pasawayako
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          #24
          Floyd shouldn't even be mentioned with pac, floyd is worthless compared to pac and even floyd nuthugger(max kellerman) acknowledge pac as the LB4LB GOAT because pac Achievements is undeniable....

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            #25
            Manny might stop Spence, but Crawford would mess him up badly. Doctor would stop it due to open cuts gushing from his face. Manny has always always been a limited fighter defensively l, but a upper middle class ring IQ fighter like Spence gets caught late after getting lulled by a combination. Crawford is just a different caliber of fighter.

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              #26
              Originally posted by FredRekk
              He’d Definitely have to be number 1 or 2 ATG.
              Manny Ali or Muhammed Pacquiao.
              If he beat Spence, it would be a decent win, but I'm not sold on Spence. Beating Bud would catapult Pac along side the immortals of boxing.
              Last edited by Raggamuffin; 09-07-2019, 06:02 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Lomasexual
                It would be an astonishing achievement. Why? Because of his age, and because it would be a return to his best form after struggling years ago against the likes of Jeff 'Who?'' Horn.

                But for me, being an ATG is all about P4P H2H. You can rack up all sorts of different achievements - and I'd argue that they lead you to the HOF, but don't necessarily change where you stand on the ATG lists.

                It is like Bernard Hopkins. He had otherworldly longevity. It helps build his case for the HOF (which was already a lock anyway) but it doesn't put him over RJJ in the ATG stakes.

                I can't put Manny ahead of Floyd - because on the P4P H2H scale, he loses every time.
                This is exactly why Floyd can't be compared to pac. Pac making astonishing achievements is a regular occurence. Floyd never has astonishing achievements.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Floyd shouldn't even be mentioned with pac, floyd is worthless compared to pac and even floyd nuthugger(max kellerman) acknowledge pac as the LB4LB GOAT because pac Achievements is undeniable....
                  Pac has been kod 3 times. One of those ko losses he was almost killed. Floyd beat Pac. It's time that you change your pathetic avy. Nobody thinks that Pac is greater than Floyd except his fans.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    This is exactly why Floyd can't be compared to pac. Pac making astonishing achievements is a regular occurence. Floyd never has astonishing achievements.
                    Can't be compared!!!??? You must be sick in the ****en head, lmao.

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                    • pasawayako
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Pac has been kod 3 times. One of those ko losses he was almost killed. Floyd beat Pac. It's time that you change your pathetic avy. Nobody thinks that Pac is greater than Floyd except his fans.
                      Keep believing yourself that no one thinks that pac is greater than floyd... Max kellerman who is a floyd nughugger and a certified pac hater couldn't deny pac greatness and even considered pac as the LB4LB GOAT... Sorry that's the truth...

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