After Pacquiao Beats Spence and/or Crawford. Where would u rank him?

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  • hugh grant
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    #101
    The whole boxing world has Pac ranked higher than floyd.
    I think boxrec, certainly ESpn, has Floyd higher, a poll that was probably made the day after jmm, or Floyd beat pac, knee jerk reaction polls.
    But when when the dust settled and everything blew over, and people had time to inhale and think, they realised, knew Pac is without question best of era, like jmm said, like barrera and max kellerman say.
    Floyd whole resume is full of used goods and asterix. Hatton was literally used goods by time Floyd fought hatton, he barely beat anyone at 147 convincingly and was a accident waiting to happen. Nelo green, cw. Jmm.... Pacs used goods.
    At least Pac beat common opponents, and Floyd used goods more dominantly than floyd did. Floyd can only beat common opponents more convincingly whilst cheating scales and only once. Hardly counts for much. Pacs made all Floyds wins not age well. There's no real case for floyd being greater.. BH could tell you that with his 8 losses, including a loss to jc, all whilst being greater than JC
    Last edited by hugh grant; 09-14-2019, 12:32 PM.

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    • FredRekk
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      #102
      Top 5 boxers of all time:
      1)Pacquiao
      2)SRR
      3)Ali
      4)Duran
      5)Pernell Whitaker/Joe Louis

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      • madsweeney
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        #103
        Originally posted by FredRekk
        Top 5 boxers of all time:
        1)Pacquiao
        2)SRR
        3)Ali
        4)Duran
        5)Pernell Whitaker/Joe Louis
        Floyd # 1 in fantasy and exhibition matches tho

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        • QballLobo
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          #104
          If he pulled that off at his age he’s on the boxing Mount Rushmore.

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #105
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            The whole boxing world has Pac ranked higher than floyd.
            I think boxrec, certainly ESpn, has Floyd higher, a poll that was probably made the day after jmm, or Floyd beat pac, knee jerk reaction polls.
            But when when the dust settled and everything blew over, and people had time to inhale and think, they realised, knew Pac is without question best of era, like jmm said, like barrera and max kellerman say.
            Floyd whole resume is full of used goods and asterix. Hatton was literally used goods by time Floyd fought hatton, he barely beat anyone at 147 convincingly and was a accident waiting to happen. Nelo green, cw. Jmm.... Pacs used goods.
            At least Pac beat common opponents, and Floyd used goods more dominantly than floyd did. Floyd can only beat common opponents more convincingly whilst cheating scales and only once. Hardly counts for much. Pacs made all Floyds wins not age well. There's no real case for floyd being greater.. BH could tell you that with his 8 losses, including a loss to jc, all whilst being greater than JC
            Lying and then trying to hide by not quoting me only proves agin that you are aware Floyd is ahead of Manny in every credible rankings of fighters.

            It should be ok that your opinion is different from boxing historians and experts. That is expected because you are a manny fan, not a boxing fan.

            The way we know Floyd is better than manny is you erasing the post once Floyd beat everyone you said he had to.

            You made the list assuming he wouldn’t beat everyone. Once he did you knew in your heart he would always be better than Manny so you tried to hide it.

            Your dishonesty and shame is proof to all of us that in your heart you know Floyd is better no matter what you type in your posts.

            Actions speak louder than words. Yours are the actions of a fan that can’t bring himself to admit his favorite is #2.

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            • hugh grant
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              #106
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              It should be ok that your opinion is different from boxing historians and experts. That is expected because you are a manny fan, not a boxing fan.

              The way we know Floyd is better than manny is you erasing the post once Floyd beat everyone you said he had to.

              You made the list assuming he wouldn’t beat everyone. Once he did you knew in your heart he would always be better than Manny so you tried to hide .
              You.are the pac hating liar. I've never made a list of people Floyd need to beat to be greater than pac. I made a list of fighters Floyd needed to beat to be mentioned as an ATG alongside the srr, the Alis and pac S of this world.
              But I also admitted countless times since this that I only said it as an incentive for floyd to fight more than once every 18 months. You don't mention that do you?


              Plus things change and aren't set in stone. The SSM, DLH and cotto wins.... pacs used goods- in hindsight weren't as good wins as they couldve been. For starters Pac beat cott o before floyd did as well as beat all those that I said Floyd should fight and beat, but not only that, Pac actually went onto beat them more dominantly.

              And you should have known I must have been deluded to say it in first place. Beating old SSM, DLH or whoever I said it was, wasn't going to make people mention Floyd alongside no srr, Ali or pac, you know that better than anyone.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-16-2019, 03:42 AM.

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                #107
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                You.are the pac hating liar. I've never made a list of people Floyd need to beat to be greater than pac. I made a list of fighters Floyd needed to beat to be mentioned as an ATG alongside the srr, the Alis and pac S of this world.
                But I also admitted countless times since this that I only said it as an incentive for floyd to fight more than once every 18 months. You don't mention that do you?


                Plus things change and aren't set in stone. The SSM, DLH and cotto wins.... pacs used goods- in hindsight weren't as good wins as they couldve been. For starters Pac beat cott o before floyd did as well as beat all those that I said Floyd should fight and beat, but not only that, Pac actually went into beat them more dominantly.

                And you should have known I must have been deluded to say it in first place. Beating old SSM, DLH or whoever I said it was, wasn't going to make people mention Floyd alongside no srr, Ali or pac, you know that better than anyone.
                I never posted that you created a list like that. Your actions let us know what you really believe in your heart.

                Lmfao at you mentioning manny with them. Like people really do that.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  I never posted that you created a list like that. Your actions let us know what you really believe in your heart.

                  Lmfao at you mentioning manny with them. Like people really do that.
                  Floyd S wins over ssm, dlh and Hatton, cotto are nice. But with pac s wins over them also, the wins for floyd aren't ageing well.
                  BH didn't even have to beat common opponent of Calzaghe to be greater. Yet you want us to believe, even though Pac did, going way and above the call of duty, yet he's still not greater than Floyd is?. How twisted would that be? It's like one rule for floyd and another for everyone else?
                  Calzaghe probably wouldn't have lost to the guys who beat bh also, yet still wouldn't be considered better than bh? Bh could have 10 losses he'd still be considered better than joe.
                  So how can Floyd realistically be better than pac? There's no realistic case for it if you apply the same logic for floyd as everyone else!
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 09-16-2019, 03:39 AM.

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                    #109
                    pac would easily be #1 p4p all time. easily.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Floyd S wins over ssm, dlh and Hatton, cotto are nice. But with pac s wins over them also, the wins for floyd aren't ageing well.
                      BH didn't even have to beat common opponent of Calzaghe to be greater. Yet you want us to believe, even though Pac did, going way and above the call of duty, yet he's still not greater than Floyd is?. How twisted would that be? It's like one rule for floyd and another for everyone else?
                      Calzaghe probably wouldn't have lost to the guys who beat bh also, yet still wouldn't be considered better than bh? Bh could have 10 losses he'd still be considered better than joe.
                      So how can Floyd realistically be better than pac? There's no realistic case for it if you apply the same logic for floyd as everyone else!
                      How can Floyd be better? Let’s start with these facts:

                      He’s voted ahead of Manny in every credible poll of ATG boxers.

                      He beat manny decisively 10-2 , 8-4 and 8-4 when they fought.

                      He has 2 wins- Manny and Canelo- better than any win on Manny’s resume.

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