Comments Thread For: Hearn: GGG Won't Wait For Canelo; Lots Of Opponents For Him

[j.razor]

Just to stop the spread of misinformation he definitely picked Canelo over Derevychanko.

The IBF was going to grant GGG his request to fight on May 5th against vanes under the condition that immediately following the fight he would fight Derevychanko.

Under that scenario and what really happened GGG would have fought Vanes regardless first.

So it would have been impossible to call it a duck unless you truly believe Canelo is a worse option than Derevychanko.

And. The only reason GGG was in that scenario to begin with was because Canelo got caught using.

The B.S. you guys come up with to protect Pvssy-G is too funny

[j.razor]

Who did you cry to/blow to fix your rep lol

I don't follow that stuff. I just see bullshet, expose it & have fun doing it, that is all.

[j.razor]

GGG beat Clenelo TWICE!! But got robbed by the Vegas Mafia & NSAC. Clenelo needs to man up & fight GGG in MSG NY the Mecca of Boxing. But he hasn't got the balls to fight without NSAC & Vegas boxing covering his ass. In Vegas all Clenelo has to do is be standing at the final bell & he "wins"

WRONG. Nelo got robbed in the 1st fight.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

You just here playing games....probably getting paid for it..

truth and facts debunks ur biased "hype-job"claim!!

[Boxing_1013]

Cute alt.

Even if you want to pretend that you’re not copying Dave Moretti’s scorecard in bout 1 and nitpick from bout 2, know that 1 judge in both fights had a Draw. Rounds 7-9 in bout 1 have different scores.

The point is, swing rounds are proven by the variance of different cards. Not by fanboys going with one judges scorecards to fit their in-denial-agenda.

Man I assure you I am much less of a 'fanboy' for GGG than you are for Nelo No offense though.

No judge had it scored 8-4 for GGG in either fight so not copying anyone's card...just calling it how I saw it...and I'm no alt...I'm Robbie Barrett's dad.

And I know you are a Nelo fan and that's cool...but touting judges' scorecards when they are in favor for the A-side/favored fighter...I mean come on, we all know how that goes...Kov didn't beat Ward on 1 judge scorecard in fight 1 either.

I just think Nelo's threshold for winning a round on a judge's card is quite small when they really want to give him a round.

It's no disrespect to Nelo, I think he is a great fighter...just got outworked by GGG in both fights, no shame in that imo.

[Boxing_1013]

I gave kov like 3 or 4 rounds.

Lol yeesh man...not credible...later bro

[Boxing_1013]

Who did you cry to/blow to fix your rep lol

I noticed that too...he went from way in the red to like the most green overnight lol

[Ake-Dawg]

Essentially though he did choose Nelo over SD...if he fought SD after Vanes, he wouldn't have been stripped, that is important to note here and I'm not sure if you are aware of that fact, no disrespect, sincerely...and as has been mentioned, I don't think SD would have actually been ready to go on May 5th...I just have no issue with GGG, especially at his age (and at that time having been strung along a bit in his last few fight negotiations) taking a fight on the original date to save the date/his training.

Also worth considering that his last fight before that was Nelo in September...so at his age to possibly be out of the ring for an entire year after negotiating a new fight/terms/date with SD, I just don't really see the logic in hating on GGG for that whole situation...Nelo was the one who popped for PEDs, yet somehow GGG gets more criticism for that whole affair, just a bit wild imo.

Also..when evaluating a fighter's greatness...most of us are going by what we actually see from them rather than what an official record may show...generally the good breaks even out with the bad, and the official record is more or less in line with what most of us see.

But if I (and many others) saw GGG do things like beat Nelo etc...then that would explain why we maybe hold him in higher esteem than others like you perhaps...I try to evaluate every fighter and their career objectively, and when looking at what GGG has done, I think it is very clear that he is great...his opposition imo is overly slighted by people who don't appear to like him, and he has been very dominant against many quality opponents.

My comments about GGG's performances against those like Nelo are just intended to help illustrate why many hold him in high regard...you seemed to insinuate that you were unsure of why many view GGG as a great or ATG fighter...many were impressed with his performances there against Nelo and felt he won, so they would view him highly...they also view his dominance and no slip ups against 15 or so quality fighters impressive (plus better fighters in Jacobs/Murray), in addition to his very impressive and dominant amateur career and accolades.

Let's be clear....he signed to fight Vanes while Dervy was available and asking to fight him on May 5. GGG made ZERO attempts to make that fight.

Looking great vs weak competition and good versus Jacobs and Canelo doesn't necessarily create the greatness many including you want to heap on GGG. At this stage, he is just one of the fighters who "arguably beat Canelo". There is no defining win. No real moment. I applaud him for securing generational wealth, but it was at the expense of a generational legacy. Tomorrow's generation won't have a fight or fight to look at that says this is where this guy stamped himself as an ATG.

[Real King Kong]

I don't follow that stuff. I just see bullshet, expose it & have fun doing it, that is all.

Sure dweeb...sure.

[Boxing_1013]

Let's be clear....he signed to fight Vanes while Dervy was available and asking to fight him on May 5. GGG made ZERO attempts to make that fight.

Looking great vs weak competition and good versus Jacobs and Canelo doesn't necessarily create the greatness many including you want to heap on GGG. At this stage, he is just one of the fighters who "arguably beat Canelo". There is no defining win. No real moment. I applaud him for securing generational wealth, but it was at the expense of a generational legacy. Tomorrow's generation won't have a fight or fight to look at that says this is where this guy stamped himself as an ATG.

Eh idk...matter of opinion I suppose...I think he has more than proved his worth as a great and ATG...I would also say that again I don't think SD would have been ready at all by May 5th, but I think you are correct that GGG and his team weren't necessarily looking in his direction either at that point...to be fair though taking on a 'disrupter' fight on short notice with his legacy and money fight/rematch waiting with Nelo, just really dumb really...wouldn't expect anyone to make dumb decisions like that...and again that fight would have not happened on May 5...just would have been a mess to go that route really.

I think also most fighters are focused on securing money over legacy...we saw it plenty with Floyd as he moved up in weight and went into his Money May persona...just the way it is, and who can say they are wrong to do it that way...a lot of people who don't like a guy will give no credit regardless, so no sense imo in trying to please them...I think you have to balance the money with the legacy and I think GGG and quite a few others in this era have done that very well.

Just think a kid from BFE fighting away from home his whole career and scoring KOs and dominant Ws against very good opposition is impressive...especially factoring in that ATG amateur career...not many can really say that..he is not without flaws but undoubtedly great imo