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  • Bluebird
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    #31
    Originally posted by giant_king
    No matter how many times horn gets embarrassed his style can still beat pac

    With corrupt judges and referee, and his “dirty style” of fighting, it is possible, why not?

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    • Bluebird
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      #32
      Originally posted by nubianpiye
      He'll always have that win over Pac and the whole philippines no one can take that from him.

      Hahahahaha! Teddy Atlas told him in his face he didn’t beat Pac! Not only the whole Philippines but the whole world especially here in the USA didn’t think Horn beat Pac! Nice try!

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      • Scopedog
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        #33
        I still stand by my opinion that his win over Pac was legit, but even if you don't agree you must at least see that he was competitive in that fight and gave Pacquiao problems when everybody thought it was a severe mismatch and that Manny would knock him out no problem. If nothing else that shows that he had what it took to be competitive at a reasonably high level... at welterweight. Not middleweight. Seriously, his biggest asset was the fact that at welter he was physically strong and could bully opponents, force them on the back foot and rough them up with his brawling skills. He obviously forgot that when he went up in weight and knocked over the ghost of Anthony Mundine who clearly just showed up to collect a cheque. Somehow he figured he'd be viable not just at LMW, but at MW even from that joke of a fight.

        What he needs to do is to kick any notion of fighting at higher weights, get back down to WW, and spend some time rebuilding by fighting gatekeeper level opposition - I'm talking guys like Luis Collazo or Samuel Vasquez. From there he can maybe snipe a win against another one of the other washed up guys on his level like Khan or Victor Ortiz, someone who still carries a recognisable name but isn't very good anymore. Win that and then he can maybe consider fighting someone relevant again. He's still fairly young and one of the only relevant boxing names in Australia so he can still bring in enough cash to lure the aforementioned guys in, so there's still at least some hope left for him. Sure, Crawford cut him to ribbons, but that was Crawford. There are still fights out there at WW that he can win so long as he's prepared to rebuild from this ill-advised trip up in weight.

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        • Letmaku
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          #34
          Jeff Horn is back to earth with a lot of blessings adios amigo cell mate sayonara!
          Last edited by Letmaku; 09-02-2019, 05:01 AM.

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            #35
            Why is he trying to fight at 160? Seriously?

            If he continues, and I feel he will, I hope common sense drops him back down to a more healthy division. Gift decision over Manny or not, who wants another one of those "where are they now" documentaries when we see Horn shuffling along and unable to form full sentences when he is 50 but is living in a damaged, 80 year old body.

            Where is his support system? He can make some money off his name for a couple more years, but he is going to end up a Greek Tragedy if continues at MW.

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            • hmc87
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              #36
              Originally posted by Bluebird
              Oh, you mean by fighting dirty using headbutts, elbows and headlocks? If he beat Pac in an honorable way, there’s no doubt he would get the recognition but he didn’t so that’s all there is to that.
              That's the same way Duran beat SRL and JCC won his major fights. It's the same way Maidana arguably drew with Floyd in their 1st fight.

              The ref determines what's illegal and allowed. They take points and can DQ fighters altogether. Ref felt Horn was within reason and so did most viewers.

              Gutsy performance by BOTH, but Horn edged it

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              • Bluebird
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                #37
                Originally posted by hmc87
                That's the same way Duran beat SRL and JCC won his major fights. It's the same way Maidana arguably drew with Floyd in their 1st fight.

                The ref determines what's illegal and allowed. They take points and can DQ fighters altogether. Ref felt Horn was within reason and so did most viewers.

                Gutsy performance by BOTH, but Horn edged it

                Pac was the lineal welterweight champion before the Horn fight, the fact that Horn didn’t become the lineal welterweight champion after his controversial win against Pac says a lot. Teddy Atlas, a well known Pac hater even told Horn in his face he didn’t beat Pac!

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                • thedarkdragon11
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                  #38
                  Beg a rematch against GrandPac in Manila with Filipino judges and referee...

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                  • Toffee
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bluebird
                    Pac was the lineal welterweight champion before the Horn fight, the fact that Horn didn’t become the lineal welterweight champion after his controversial win against Pac says a lot. Teddy Atlas, a well known Pac hater even told Horn in his face he didn’t beat Pac!
                    I couldn't care less about lineal status in anything below heavyweight, and not even that much more in the heavyweight decision.

                    But how does that work? He beat the lineal and didn't become the new lineal? Who decided that?

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                    • hmc87
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Bluebird
                      Pac was the lineal welterweight champion before the Horn fight, the fact that Horn didn’t become the lineal welterweight champion after his controversial win against Pac says a lot. Teddy Atlas, a well known Pac hater even told Horn in his face he didn’t beat Pac!
                      Pac was never lineal at WW. He lost to Floyd and inherited the title because by beating Tim Bradley
                      ...someone he already beat twice. Then he beat Vargas and lost to Horn. It's a bogus label in this circumstance

                      And Teddy Atlas says a lot of things...

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