Mayweather is the Best. Deal With It!

[Super_Lightweight]

Put a poll up right now of who would give Floyd more problems between Margarito & Shane and I bet that Shane wins and even with the writers. Put a poll up right now asking who is a harder fight between Margarito at 147 or Oscar at 154 and I bet that Oscar will win and even with the writers

It does not matter one bit. Both of those men are off the table until May 2007 because Oscar has dibs on Floyd.

There is no debate on this issue. The only rational statement that can be made is this: Floyd will fight Marg and/or Baldomir in the near future, or he will rightfully take heat for not doing so.

That's it.

[DLT]

Collazo? He just lost. Margarito is better off waiting for Williams to beat Mitchell so he can knock off the '0'. Again, you don't seem to understand how boxing works. Floyd is the so-called best fighter, so he needs to prove it by clearing out his division.

No one has any responsibilty to move up. Stop gettin all pissy as if Marg has some duty to move up in weight just because Floyd did. Floyd's move up means jack **** if he doesn't take on the best fighters in that class.

Marg's weight class is 147. He makes it comfortably. For you to make up bull**** claims about him being some kinda fraud for not fighting guys at 154 (most of which are already scheduled for fights btw) is laughable.

Dude, you make no sense. Im not saying that he has to move up, Im saying that stop making excuses for him not getting fights when he has all these other ways to get fights. Im also sick of you guys saying Callazo just loss. So did Margarito. Most people even think Callazo won the fight so stop being hypocritical.

My point is dont act like there arent fights out there for him. Anyone can call out Floyd. I can name a 100 guys out there who will fight Floyd including Mesquita but what does that mean? He also has a title but he doesnt deserve the fight anymore then Margarito's weak resume, excuse making ass does.

Ive said it before and Ill say it again. Floyd will be alright regardless because we all know that sooner or later Oscar or Shane or Hatton will fight him but you cant say the same about Margarito. He is just going to look like a clown waiting for Floyd. Everyone is on his side now but soon it will start to be a backlash against him if Floyd doesnt fight him and he ends up fighting no one but bums. When history comes and everyone talks about Floyd and no one talks about Margarito then people wont even really remember this **** and Margarito will be a damn after thought. The fact is Floyd will be alright regardless but you cant say the same about Margarito. A victory over Callazo or Zab is very credible and more credible then anything he has ever done

[Azteca]

re dlt:
your stance is very predictable. you always make it a big deal that mayweather is 'dogged on' while other fighters aren't.

wright has been fighting guys who have been campaigning regularly at 154 or 160 pounds. both DLH and mosley were fighting at junior-middle and had won titles in that division when wright was pursuing them. winky actually moved up to 160 to fight trinidad, and regardless of who carried the weight better the fact remains that tito had been fighting between 154 and 160 for over five years.

taking a fight with trinidad - a guy who obviously had the power to knock out legitimate middleweights - is not a case of wright picking on a smaller guy. also, when winky was defending his 154 pound title in previous years, his opponents were junior-middleweight contenders (jc candelo, bronco mckart, etc). he was paying his dues and just hoping for someone to give him a chance. which ultimately happened - when mosley gave him a shot.

you need to look no further than his willingness to fight hopkins and taylor (and recently calzaghe) to realize that having any sort of advantage is not what motivates winky to take on any challenge.

[DLT]

It does not matter one bit. Both of those men are off the table until May 2007 because Oscar has dibs on Floyd.

There is no debate on this issue. The only rational statement that can be made is this: Floyd will fight Marg and/or Baldomir in the near future, or he will rightfully take heat for not doing so.

That's it.

Dont read one thing and act like you know what it is about. There was alot of **** before that and he tried to tell me that I was a fool for thinking this and acted like it wasnt even close. Like he thinks that everyone thinks that Margarito is a much tougher fight then either of them

[DLT]

re dlt:
your stance is very predictable. you always make it a big deal that mayweather is 'dogged on' while other fighters aren't.

wright has been fighting guys who have been campaigning regularly at 154 or 160 pounds. both DLH and mosley were fighting at junior-middle and had won titles in that division when wright was pursuing them. winky actually moved up to 160 to fight trinidad, and regardless of who carried the weight better the fact remains that tito had been fighting between 154 and 160 for over five years.

taking a fight with trinidad - a guy who obviously had the power to knock out legitimate middleweights - is not a case of wright picking on a smaller guy. also, when winky was defending his 154 pound title in previous years, his opponents were junior-middleweight contenders (jc candelo, bronco mckart, etc). he was paying his dues and just hoping for someone to give him a chance. which ultimately happened - when mosley gave him a shot.

you need to look no further than his willingness to fight hopkins and taylor (and recently calzaghe) to realize that having any sort of advantage is not what motivates winky to take on any challenge.

Man, I can piss on Winky's **** just as much as you can boost it up. 1st off he didnt fight Oscar so I dont know why you bring him up. Winky beat a Mosley who had not 1 real win in his previous 4 fights before him and was a much bigger guy then Shane. Shane he just lost twice to Forrest, moved up and looked like complete **** against Marquez before the DQ, and beat Oscar but alot of people thought he lost. Winky fought Shane after that and everyone gives him so much credit for that when Shane was not even a real 154 pounder at the time, was looking like complete ****, and he still almost lost the 2nd fight.

Then he fights a Trinidad who had just come off a 2 year retirment, and was just murdered by Hopkins 2 fights prior. He looked like a slow pile of **** and clearly past his prime but yet you try to play it off like that win was so huge and that Tito had been at 160 so long.

He then fought sorry ass Soliman and looked like garbage in which he nearly lost. He face was lit up against a bum. You bring up the Candelo fight but I remember reading a colum after the fight when a writer said that "Winky has been called underrated so long that he's starting to look overrated".

The only fight I give him alot of real credit for was the Taylor fight but even Taylor was still basically a green guy who is highly uncoordinated. He's not one of those guys that strikes fear in people. He's the type of guy that you look at and think you can beat

[Super_Lightweight]

Margarito did not just lose to anyone like Collazo did. Similar to how Floyd's win over Judah lost steam, a win for Tony over Collazo would not mean much given Collazo's recent loss. Marg's last fight was a victory, and his last loss was at 154...a weight class that Floyd does not fight in.

Marg has no responsibilty to go to 154 to get fights to make himself more 'worthy' for Floyd, period. Just like Floyd has no responsibiloty to go to 154. If Tony went to 154 again he could possibly lose the only bargaining chip he has, the WBO belt.

The parrot says: There is no debate. Floyd has to fight this guy, period. He is at 147 and it's his job to take care of business in the division if he is to be seen as the man in this weight-class. No one is saying Tony is the man in this class.

[Azteca]

re dlt:
you are making a mole out to be a mountain in regards to mosley. mosley is a superstar. he had a losing record in those fights because - guess what? he was fighting the best competition. manny pac is praised and even he is only 2-1-1 in his last few fights. not too bad for a little kid from manila is it? winky was not fighting corley, bruseles, gatti etc in the past year and claims to be the self-described p4p champ. no way - not in my books. winky was actively pursuinig the top guys for years and they would not fight him.

[DLT]

Margarito did not just lose to anyone like Collazo did. Similar to how Floyd's win over Judah lost steam, a win for Tony over Collazo would not mean much given Collazo's recent loss. Marg's last fight was a victory, and his last loss was at 154...a weight class that Floyd does not fight in.

Marg has no responsibilty to go to 154 to get fights to make himself more 'worthy' for Floyd, period. Just like Floyd has no responsibiloty to go to 154. If Tony went to 154 again he could possibly lose the only bargaining chip he has, the WBO belt.

The parrot says: There is no debate. Floyd has to fight this guy, period. He is at 147 and it's his job to take care of business in the division if he is to be seen as the man in this weight-class. No one is saying Tony is the man in this class.

Floyd does not have to fight this guy. How can you say that? It would be great for Floyd to fight him but he doesnt have to. He has no big wins, just lost 2 fights ago, and he's not the champ but yet you say Floyd has to fight him? Floyd doesnt have to fight anyone but Baldy.

Your going to say that Margarito didnt just lose because it was 2 fights ago instead of 1? Your also going to say that it doesnt count because it was at 154? Floyd has moved up a bunch of times and if he loses even now, you would all say that it counts big time.

Dont compare Callazo to Zab. Zab is known for being a clown and he lost basically to a guy who was considered a journeyman and most thought he really lost. Callazo lost to a elite fighter & most people thought he won. Even if you thought he lost, he definatly didnt embarass himself like Zab did. No one would consider Callazo as a joke opponent unless he was fighting Floyd. Karmazin also just lost but I bet no one would complain if a top guy took him on because he still fought very well and alot of people think he won or it was a draw. Zab spent the last few rounds running and everything. His loss was nothing like Callazo's

[AREALFIGHTER]

he must give you that long tender loven that comes at the buisness end of his ****.

[DLT]

re dlt:
you are making a mole out to be a mountain in regards to mosley. mosley is a superstar. he had a losing record in those fights because - guess what? he was fighting the best competition. manny pac is praised and even he is only 2-1-1 in his last few fights. not too bad for a little kid from manila is it? winky was not fighting corley, bruseles, gatti etc in the past year and claims to be the self-described p4p champ. no way - not in my books. winky was actively pursuinig the top guys for years and they would not fight him.

Winky also has losses on his record and had never fought anyone close to Castillo, Chico, Chaves, Hernandez, Hernandez, and so on.

Please stop choosing favorites because it doesnt work. If your telling me losses dont count then you are foolish. Were talking about 4 straight ****ty fights and fighting a much bigger man. His confidence was completely shot. He didnt just barley lose fights, he looked like **** and was even screaming against Forrest