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  • DLT
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    #81
    Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
    Cintron is a solid win. He looked sharp int he fight til he was crushed by the better fighter. He has also beaten guys the **** up as he should when they were not on his level. He has smashed the guys inmost cases that were willing to fight him.

    You are right, Floyd was turned down by DLH, Mosley, and Hatton. So now he needs to fight Baldy and/or Marg, end of story. There is nothing fraudulent about Tony. He is not claiming to be p4p number one. Furthermore, if he beats Quintana then that is a very good win...and with the amount of people who are demanding a Williams-Marg to fight, you better believe Marg deserves credit for that fight.

    In the sport of boxing the so-called champs, and p4p stars prove their worth by cleaning out the divison's best...not by stewing around and waiting for fights that aren't happening for almost a year.
    The fact is that if he beats Williams or Quintana then they are solid wins but they have no complete realness to it because you havent seen those guys beat anyone. They could be great fighters but they might also suck just like Julio.

    Dont try to boost up Cintron. Dude nearly get beat by a shot Teddy Reid in the fight right before Margarito. The fact is they are ok wins but you have to beat someone who has beat someone to get real respect or atleast beat someone who has been in the ring with real guys. Callazo is a guy like that. A win like that you cant take anything away from Margarito.

    If Floyd beats William or Quintana then what will they say. This has never before been done in history but you guys are going to sit up here and act like this **** is so real. Never before in history has so much been made over a elite guy who has proven himself over and over again, trying to fight a guy who has basically done nothing, who's only clame to fame is a win over a rookie, who has a title which was vacant, who only has the WBO title but act like it means so much, and just lost 2 fights ago. Never in history has a big deal been made over a elite guy fighting someone like that but its happening now because people love to hate Floyd and thats the bottom line.

    They are waiting for him to lose and they cant wait for it. They cant wait to just rip him apart. You keep making a big deal about Santos weight like that means something. Newsflash, guys are bigger when you move up. Margarito will outweigh Floyd by more then Santos outweighed him. Chico was a damn WW when Floyd fought him. Floyd has moved up so many times so stop using Santos weight as a excuse.

    They still try to hate on Floyd for that win and say that Chico was drained even though 2 years later Chico was still figthing at that weight and all this time later he is still only at 135 and has no plans to go anywhere. They dont like Floyd plain and simple.

    No one said anything to Hopkins or thought about dropping him in there rankings when he was figthing Hakkar, Daniels, Allen, and a shot Joppy. They just hate Floyd

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    • Bonafide
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      #82
      That article was ******. Whoever wrote it is obviously the biggest Mayweather fan out there. Blaming on the choosing of his opponents because of brittle hands ???

      what fighter hanst had hand problems ? I can name a few right now Malignaggi, Gatti , Delahoya. Gatti usually almost always breaks his hand in every fight. This is just a bunch of damn excuses to face the reality that he is clearly avoiding the most dangerous fighters in the welterweight division.

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      • Bonafide
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        #83
        That article was ******. Whoever wrote it is obviously the biggest Mayweather fan out there. Blaming on the choosing of his opponents because of brittle hands ???

        what fighter hanst had hand problems ? I can name a few right now Malignaggi, Gatti , Delahoya. Gatti usually almost always breaks his hand in every fight. This is just a bunch of damn excuses to face the reality that he is clearly avoiding the most dangerous fighters in the welterweight division.

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        • Super_Lightweight
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          #84
          The fact is that if he beats Williams or Quintana then they are solid wins but they have no complete realness to it because you havent seen those guys beat anyone. They could be great fighters but they might also suck just like Julio.

          Dont try to boost up Cintron. Dude nearly get beat by a shot Teddy Reid in the fight right before Margarito. The fact is they are ok wins but you have to beat someone who has beat someone to get real respect or atleast beat someone who has been in the ring with real guys. Callazo is a guy like that. A win like that you cant take anything away from Margarito.

          If Floyd beats William or Quintana then what will they say. This has never before been done in history but you guys are going to sit up here and act like this **** is so real. Never before in history has so much been made over a elite guy who has proven himself over and over again
          If you cannot be satisfied with Quintana or Williams then you will never be satisfied. There is no one else really to beat. Baldy doesn't mention Tony, Hatton is busy, etc. etc. Quintana is certainly not as sucky as Julio, because he beat the **** out of Julio. It's a never ending circle of bull**** with you. No one is good enough for Tony to 'earn' a shot vs Floyd. It doesn't matter who he beats.

          Your statement about Cintron almost getting beat by Reid is utter bull****. You have been hyping Reid's performance in that fight for the longest. Reid got his ass whooped, plain and simple. Reid has power and landed a shot or three on Cintron, and it didn't matter. Cintron controlled the fight and destroyed him. Reid was not shot in that fight...starting to fade, but not shot. You continue to exaggerate.

          Collazo has in NO way proved to be any better than Quintana. In his one big fight he lost, period. I've seen both Steve and Collazo fight, and Quintana is every bit as good...plus he hits harder. Collazo is not somehow the big key to Tony deserving a fight with Floyd.

          As for Floyd being an elite guy proving himself 'over and over again'...that simply has not been demonstrated at 147 yet. One way he can do this is to take on Margarito who is a top 5 guy at 147.

          Very simple: When you are the supposed badass of a division, you take on the top contenders in that division. There is no debate. It's over.

          Moving on.

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            #85
            Originally posted by DLT
            I couldnt have said it better mylelf

            http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Casile_072506.htm
            yeah mmm that article is as unbiast as anyarticle a pinoy could write about manny or a mexican could write about JCC

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            • DLT
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              #86
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              If you cannot be satisfied with Quintana or Williams then you will never be satisfied. There is no one else really to beat. Baldy doesn't mention Tony, Hatton is busy, etc. etc. Quintana is certainly not as sucky as Julio, because he beat the **** out of Julio. It's a never ending circle of bull**** with you. No one is good enough for Tony to 'earn' a shot vs Floyd. It doesn't matter who he beats.

              Your statement about Cintron almost getting beat by Reid is utter bull****. You have been hyping Reid's performance in that fight for the longest. Reid got his ass whooped, plain and simple. Reid has power and landed a shot or three on Cintron, and it didn't matter. Cintron controlled the fight and destroyed him. Reid was not shot in that fight...starting to fade, but not shot. You continue to exaggerate.

              Collazo has in NO way proved to be any better than Quintana. In his one big fight he lost, period. I've seen both Steve and Collazo fight, and Quintana is every bit as good...plus he hits harder. Collazo is not somehow the big key to Tony deserving a fight with Floyd.

              As for Floyd being an elite guy proving himself 'over and over again'...that simply has not been demonstrated at 147 yet. One way he can do this is to take on Margarito who is a top 5 guy at 147.

              Very simple: When you are the supposed badass of a division, you take on the top contenders in that division. There is no debate. It's over.

              Moving on.
              What are you even talking about? How can you say that I will not be happy no matter who Margarito fights? Just because I said that those wins are solid but nothing special. You think Im the only one who feels that way? Those guys are rookies. Whats so hard to understand about that? Callazo has beat some top guys and has been in the ring with elite guys like Hatton. Please dont try to compare what those other guys have done to what he has done. If you cant see the differnce then you have a problem.

              Go ahead and try to boost up Cintron all you want man but no one is going to buy it. Its like somone trying to boost up Julio. My point is you dont know about these guys until the get in the ring with someone decent but you already know about Callazo, plain and simple.

              For your last sentence I will say this. I just got this from a writer on another board. He said, who the hell made Margarito the man to beat at WW? His **** is self appointed. He said that Margarito is not recoginzed by any of the sanctioning bodies to be the top guy except for the weak ass WBO. He said the so called bible of boxing which is the Ring Magazine doesnt have him ranked #1 and doesnt even have him at #2 which is funny since he has been there forever and Floyd has only had 2 fights.

              He said what makes you put him at the #1 guy? His 1st round destruction over Gomez who Shane KO 7 years ealier at lightweight? The Cintron win? The Santos loss? His fake belt? What?

              What makes you or anyone continue to say that he is the guy to beat? You guys cant prove that **** and have no facts behind it. He is not the guy to beat. The guy to beat is Baldy. Baldy has the real belt and has beaten the better fighters and hasnt lost recently unlike Margarito. Margarito has no real claim at all to the #1 spot but yet you guys keep trying to put him there. Well I dont agree and neither do alot of others

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              • DLT
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                #87
                Originally posted by += El Jefe=+
                yeah mmm that article is as unbiast as anyarticle a pinoy could write about manny or a mexican could write about JCC
                Its so funny how all the haters keep saying that this is a biased nuthugging article but think the articles dissing Floyd is so great? I think those articles are biased and clearly driven by hate

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                • woftam
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Bonafide
                  That article was ******. Whoever wrote it is obviously the biggest Mayweather fan out there. Blaming on the choosing of his opponents because of brittle hands ???

                  what fighter hanst had hand problems ? I can name a few right now Malignaggi, Gatti , Delahoya. Gatti usually almost always breaks his hand in every fight. This is just a bunch of damn excuses to face the reality that he is clearly avoiding the most dangerous fighters in the welterweight division.
                  Agreed the article was blatanly biased, however can you answer me one question.In fact can any of you answer my question.
                  Thus far Floyd has fought the likes of Corrales when undefeated champion, Castillo twice, Zab Judah, Gatti, to name a few. What fighters amongst those asking for a shot, or those in close to the same weight class, have taken on opponents the equal of Floyd? Yes it's time again to take on a big gun, but he at least deserves some respect for the opponents he has beaten. Some of the guys you mention have beaten no one period.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Its so funny how all the haters keep saying that this is a biased nuthugging article but think the articles dissing Floyd is so great? I think those articles are biased and clearly driven by hate
                    no they are not but its a double edge sword floyd is not even the #1 guy in his divition right now, im sorry but fighting Judah coming out of a loss, sharmba mitchell at welter do not make you "the man"
                    and Gatti, Bruselles, and Cortley at 140...... yes thats the top notch competition "the man" should have....
                    here are a few names he could fight

                    Hatton
                    Cotto (wants no part of floyd)
                    Margarito
                    Shane
                    DLH
                    Baldo

                    but i guess he is soo great we dont even have to see the fights cause we know he will win the all right champ??

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                    • Super_Lightweight
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                      #90
                      DLT, you are purely talkin out of your ass. I never said Tony was the man.

                      Collazo has not been in the ring with elite guys at 147. One fight is one man...not plural, not guys. He fought Hatton, who was elite at 140, not 147. Baldy's resume is no better than Tony's. For you to say that he is somehow clearly owning tbe better resume is ridiculous. Gatti was old as ****.

                      You claim thatnot Quintana or Williams earn Tony a shot vs Floyd. You have no idea what you are talking about. Tony is already a top 5 guy in the divison. Floyd needs to fight him if he is to campaign at 147.

                      This is very simple. I can't make it any simpler for you. If you do not understand, and want to continue to belittle any win that Tony has had...good for you.

                      Peace.

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