Mayweather is the Best. Deal With It!

[Azteca]

i would really like to know why floyd is considered a top draw. mayweather's only had like 2 PPV spots up to now. he's no big time draw. he can't even sell out a small arena, look at his fight with mitchell and everything prior to then.

[DLT]

he must give you that long tender loven that comes at the buisness end of his ****.

Your a ***** ass little girl who I would smack the **** out of if I was in person with you. I hate it when little girls come on here and say ***** **** like that. We all dont agree on here but I dont disrespect you so dont disrespect me. I e****ally hate it when clowns come out with that gay ****. I hate Bitches like that. You think that makes you a man or makes you sound cool? Grow the **** up, Clown

[DLT]

i would really like to know why floyd is considered a top draw. mayweather's only had like 2 PPV spots up to now. he's no big time draw. he can't even sell out a small arena, look at his fight with mitchell and everything prior to then.

Where did this question come from? Floyd is getting to be a better draw because he just had 2 bit PPV's with Gatti & Zab. He's not a elite draw yet but who is? No one really is except for Oscar and some other guys are ok draws but thats just because there Mexican or something. No one is that big of a draw but Floyd gets the bigger money because he is a undefeated Champ with a good resume and rated #1

[Super_Lightweight]

I never said it doesn't count. Where did I say that? Floyd fights at 147 and does not posses the advantages Santos had. Also the fight was stopped on a cut. Collazo lost in his very first showing on HBO. Tony lost and it counts and I never said otherwise, but that loss was vs a bigger man, on CUTS, in Santos' hometown. To overlook these facts is obtuse.

Zab lost because Baldomir is better, period. Zab is a clown in almost all of his fights, but he wins most of 'em. He couldn't vs Baldomir because Baldomir was big, strong, and could time Zab well.

Again, it's not about those being bad fights for Tony. It's just the simple fact that those fights at 154 are not necessary for Tony. Tony has his WBO bargaining chip and needs to keep it. He is a 147 fighter, and any time he ventures to 154 it is just gravy. Floyd is not going to fight Tony at 147.

Again, there is no debate to be had. Floyd wants to be the man in everyone's eyes, is said to be the number one fighter in the world and if he is indeed going to campaign at 147, he HAS to fight Margarito. Margarito has been a mainstay at 147 for years and is recognized as one of if not THE top contender at that weight. Floyd doesn't get to prove his p4p status by fighting Sharmba Mitchell.

Like I said, Baldy is also fine. But he has to fight Marg at some point as well. Pay attention.

[DLT]

Anyway guys, were going to have to just agree to disagree. We obviously have different opinions on this and they wont change so lets just leave it at that. I respect your views and hope you respect mine. Peace

[psychopath]

He is the best?

Oh yes at least that's what his title says, so who could change that.

But is he living up to what his title says? Does he has the balls to prove that he is the #1 p4p fighter?

Nopes, a very big NO

Like it or hate it that's the truth.

[DLT]

I never said it doesn't count. Where did I say that? Floyd fights at 147 and does not posses the advantages Santos had. Also the fight was stopped on a cut. Collazo lost in his very first showing on HBO. Tony lost and it counts and I never said otherwise, but that loss was vs a bigger man, on CUTS, in Santos' hometown. To overlook these facts is obtuse.

Zab lost because Baldomir is better, period. Zab is a clown in almost all of his fights, but he wins most of 'em. He couldn't vs Baldomir because Baldomir was big, strong, and could time Zab well.

Again, it's not about those being bad fights for Tony. It's just the simple fact that those fights at 154 are not necessary for Tony. Tony has his WBO bargaining chip and needs to keep it. He is a 147 fighter, and any time he ventures to 154 it is just gravy. Floyd is not going to fight Tony at 147.

Again, there is no debate to be had. Floyd wants to be the man in everyone's eyes, is said to be the number one fighter in the world and if he is indeed going to campaign at 147, he HAS to fight Margarito. Margarito has been a mainstay at 147 for years and is recognized as one of if not THE top contender at that weight. Floyd doesn't get to prove his p4p status by fighting Sharmba Mitchell.

Like I said, Baldy is also fine. But he has to fight Marg at some point as well. Pay attention.

Come on man, do you really think anyone will care about Margarito if Floyd fights Baldy, then Mosley, then Oscar? or if Floyd fights Baldy, Spinks, then Oscar, and you know Mosley would be right after that.

No one cares about that. They care now because Floyd turned it down when nothing else was available but now Baldy just beat 2 good fighters and he is the real Champ. If Floyd beats him then he will fight either Spinks or Mosley and then Oscar and no one will say anything about Floyd but do you think they will still be supporting Margarito or demanding Floyd to fight him? Again, this guy is not Winky Wright or anything. He has no good wins. There just doing it now because Floyd had nothing. Now he has Baldy and other fights after that.

Margarito has to get atleast one solid win. You can say what you want but the public will start to rip him if he again hides behind Floyd and fights guys like Rivera. You say Callazo does nothing for him but what the hell does Rivera do? Have you seen Rivera or looked at his record. He always loses. If Margarito fights Callazo or someone then he is in the clear.

He can even manage to continue to defraud the public if he even beats up on another greeny like Williams or Quintana but he has to fight one of these guys or he will get ripped because you know Floyd will kill Baldy and everyone will start to hype him again and start dissing Tony. Im out, Peace

[Super_Lightweight]

Cintron is a solid win. He looked sharp int he fight til he was crushed by the better fighter. He has also beaten guys the **** up as he should when they were not on his level. He has smashed the guys inmost cases that were willing to fight him.

You are right, Floyd was turned down by DLH, Mosley, and Hatton. So now he needs to fight Baldy and/or Marg, end of story. There is nothing fraudulent about Tony. He is not claiming to be p4p number one. Furthermore, if he beats Quintana then that is a very good win...and with the amount of people who are demanding a Williams-Marg to fight, you better believe Marg deserves credit for that fight.

In the sport of boxing the so-called champs, and p4p stars prove their worth by cleaning out the divison's best...not by stewing around and waiting for fights that aren't happening for almost a year.

[restless_438]

In the sport of boxing the so-called champs, and p4p stars prove their worth by cleaning out the divison's best...not by stewing around and waiting for fights that aren't happening for almost a year.

point accomplished successfully

about the "article", yeah, i read this earlier this morning... plain and simple, its a "hugger" to its Fullest..

seriously, where was this writer FOUR MONTHS AGO with this article, when this wasn't already talked about a gagilion times,

the only reason this garbage is being written by some writers now is because the more days that pass, the more people are leaving Mayweather's side in this "great debate", as proof with this section from it:

If I have to read another lame article, column or story, about how he is afraid of Antonio Margarito, or listen to the empty headed HBO commentators (except Emanuel Stewart) hype up Margarito, I am going to barf up my Philly cheese steak.

this author apparently doesn't realize what the overall reason people are frustrated with Floyd is... (see quote from Super_Lightweight above)

it's threads like these that make me want to start a petition for a "wasteland" here at boxingscene

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Too many Mayweather threads. lol!

Floyd "thinks" he's the best and he's not the "best" because he hasnt fought the "best".

It so simple. He has to fight the best guys and he's not doing that. Forget Baldomir, take the Margarito fight. He aint taken it because he's scared and only his fans dont agree with that.