Kovalev vs GGG at 175 right now..who wins and why

[4truth]

If lil g thought he could move up multiple divisions he'd have done it because it'd make him the most money, that's the point. Canelo did & now he's on his way to hundreds of millions of dollars if he pulls this off, already making tens of millions per fight from moving up & down in weight.


Lil g didn't even mention 175 when he called out everyone from 154-168 & proceeded to drag Canelo up.

Drag Canelo up? I guess credibility isn’t anything you are interested in achieving.

[Boxing_1013]

Barrera & DJ fight similar but SB has proven more in a loaded division & he's got a significant size advantage on DJ who isn't that big of a MW.

SB has wins over Smith Jr., Murat & Shabs.

DJ has Derey, Mora, Quillin, & Quillin didn't even beat Andy Lee! He drew with him only bc they scored a false knockdown in Quillins favor so DJ literally fought the loser lol. Chin wise DJ was crushed in 5 by Pirog & dropped by Mora lol, SB has him beat in every way.

Either way SB was a tuneup bout for a retired Ward while DJ is lil gs #1 win by a mile.

Bika-Ward wasn't that close, after about the 3rd round Bika couldn't connect on any headshots & it was all Ward. Bika-Calzaghe on the other hand was much closer.

Regarding Hopkins, he punches harder than Canelo who was walking lil g down. Canelo is not a KO artist, never has, never will be, he couldn't even put a dent in Zombie-Chavez but you know who could Fonfara could & Chavez was fully loaded at 172. 160 is a joke.


lil g was offered all sorts of fights, issue is he didn't want them like the Ward bout.

Man I don't think you really keeping it real on a number of those items...no offense to ya...and why call a guy you don't like a derogatory name? Kind of makes you look small imo, and also makes any critique you would have of that guy fall flat, since you are pretty clearly emotionally invested in it and maybe aren't being objective about the guy etc.

Imo DJ has been better at 160 compared to Barrera at 175..DJ is pretty big for a MW too, don't know why you threw that one in there lol...and yeah his chin was a problem...for whatever reason though it has held up his last few fights, much to my surprise...I always gave DJ a chance vs GGG, but not to go 12 rounds...didn't think the chin would hold up...maybe he got some injections in it lol...going 12 with GGG SD Sulecki and Canelo is surprising for him/his chin.

I would also say Murray was about the same level as the DJ win for GGG...and Lemieux more or less as well...maybe Geale if you wanted to throw him in...I saw GGG get two pretty straightforward Ws vs Canelo too so I would have those as his 2 'best' wins.

Never watched Bika-Calzaghe...but yeah Bika-Ward was like 50-50 fight imo...if you didn't know who either guy was and if the fight was in a neutral environment either guy could have won...I just don't really see how anyone can say Ward dominated anything in that fight.

How are you honestly going to say that BHop is a bigger puncher than Canelo lol...BHop was not a big puncher...and Canelo held the center of the ring very well in fight 2, but the only round where GGG even boxed off the back foot for any extended period of time was round 5, and that was actually one of GGG's best/clearest rounds imo.

Also Canelo is a pressure fighter, that was never BHop's game...so style wise I don't really see how one could say Hopkins would hurt GGG with his punches or would walk him down...just saw no evidence of that from either guy in their career...DJ punched harder than BHop and so does Canelo honestly....Lemieux as well.

So yeah man no offense but I just don't think you are keeping it too real on this one...maybe you are a big Ward fan as your avatar indicates so you may just see red with anything and everything Golovkin.

Also - did you think Ward won the first Kov fight? Just noticed your 32-0 record for Ward and was wondering about that...just can't see how anyone could get to 5 rounds for Andre in that fight, let alone 7.

[Boxing_1013]

Drag Canelo up? I guess credibility isn’t anything you are interested in achieving.

Right...I don't even understand the posts of some on here at times...so emotional, name-calling other fighters, hell-bent on defending their guys by any means necessary lol..just seems like an exhausting and kind of depressing way to watch/follow the sport.

[Boxing_1013]

If you want to say Canelo met him in the center of the ring and surprised the heck out of everyone fine but Golovkin did not get walked down in that fight. I don't know what idiot started this theme but it's kind of caught on.

Right...as with like 90% of the criticism GGG gets imo...it is just way overboard lol...like why embellish so much...some just seem really desperate to hate on GGG for any reason possible

[Boxing_1013]

Golovkin not moving up is making him hundreds of millions of dollars. Golovkin does not have the large rabid fan base that Canelo has in order to support him no matter who he fights. He's not based out of his home country at adjacent to it like Canelo or someone like Murata. Moving up guarantees nothing. It worked for Pacquiao but that involved a lot of catchweight fights and selective matchmaking. I give him full credit for taking on Thurman at 147. I don't for beating Oscar. I don't dislike Pacquiao I think he's amazing but for those reasons and others I take some of his wins with a grain of salt. Include Mayweather
In that also. if you think moving up and targeting selective fighters is OK then fine. I don't see them as the only criteria in making a fighter great.

Great post Tony...I never really followed Pac's career too much, but I share your sentiments for the most part...tried to give ya green K but need to spread it around

[dibzvincent143]

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I’m picking Kovalev at this point..

GGG albeit very good is not very elusive. Look at all the small fighters who came up from weight class to weight class all have that ability to avoid big shots from bigger opponents... or atleast outspeed them with movement. GGG has neither.

At least with canelo, he has the upper body movement to avoid unnecessary punishments..
Ggg will be relying on his boxing skill alone.. and it’s not like Kovalev is lacking any as well. He’ll be going fire with fire.

Kovalev’s weakness are body punches.. it slows him down, removes his power and reduces his fuel. And GGG seldom throws body punches.. he only even threw a few in two canelo fights.

I like GGG and i thought he won atleast one of the Canelo fights.. but he doesn’t have the ability to beat Kovalev at this point.. you need speed against bigger opponents.

Look at Mikey Garcia.. he’s very good but he doesn’t have the speed to deal with good big guys.

Manny and floyd are best examples. If you gotta go up, at least have the speed advantage since you’re smaller.

[TonyGe]

Great post Tony...I never really followed Pac's career too much, but I share your sentiments for the most part...tried to give ya green K but need to spread it around

Thanks. It's the thought that counts. LOL...

[Boxing_1013]

Thanks. It's the thought that counts. LOL...

Lol.......

Prediction for the 2 fights tonight?

[TonyGe]

Lol.......

Prediction for the 2 fights tonight?

Im going with Spence to beat Porter. I think he's too strong for Porter to rough up consistently and he's going to get caught coming in. Spence has a very good jab and throws to the body really well.
Benavitez and Dirrell. Don't know. I haven't followed either guy. Looking at the odds Benavitez is favored so I will go with him.

[Boxing_1013]

Im going with Spence to beat Porter. I think he's too strong for Porter to rough up consistently and he's going to get caught coming in. Spence has a very good jab and throws to the body really well.
Benavitez and Dirrell. Don't know. I haven't followed either guy. Looking at the odds Benavitez is favored so I will go with him.

Lol...an honest man...few and far between...thanks for the predictions