seriously why did Ggg and Ward never fight?

[Caxcan]

Team GGG doesn't particularly care about legacy or what the public or media thinks. Here's what Abel had to say about the situation back in '14 after Virgil called them out for saying they'd be willing to fight at 168 but no mention of Ward:
"First of all, the fans and the media can demand it but if it doesn’t make financial sense at the moment or in the future, it’s not gonna be made." He later said about Ward and other fighters calling GGG out "At this point we don't need them, they need us."

Hell, team GGG has even rejected career high paydays as the B side. People had this perception of GGG as a take on all comers type of fighter who simply lacked opponents willing to face him, but as soon as those opponents started lining up, we learned that's not who he is. He's the type of guy who weighs his options carefully before making a move. As an A side he's minimized the risks he takes and even as a B side he's willing to risk pricing himself out of huge paydays.

[boliodogs]

Ward first made a media challenge to GGG when he was legally contractually bond to fight Lemieux, GGG knocked out Lemieux in October 2015. Ward had his last ever fight at 168 in November 2013. Ward was out of action over legal matters until June 2015 when he fought Smith at a catchweight of 172 saying he could no longer make 168 and was done with that weight for good. Ward's next fight was on March 2016 against Barrera at 175 pounds. It's all there on boxrec and by following the time lines it's clear Ward could never have fought GGG at less than 175 pounds.

[Blackclouds]

When ggg ducked Ward, the narrative that was being pushed was that ggg cares about legacy. He never gave a **** about legacy, just paydays. Pretty much every Ward fan wanted this fight because it was an easy fight for him to win. Also would've ended the obnoxious overrating of ggg who was being compared to Hagler and other greats when he couldn't hold their jockstrap.

[yankees7448]

??????????

3 reasons

1. Ward couldn't draw flies to feces. His PPV fights with Kovalev severely underperformed. Neither fight sold as well as GGG vs Jacobs even though the Kovalev/Ward fights were more meaningful fights.

2. Ward was inactive: GGG didn't debut on HBO until September 2012. Between December 18 2011 and early 2016 he only fought a whopping 4 times. Only one of those fights was at 168. There were plenty of quality fighters at 168 (Badu Jack, the Dirrell Brothers, Carl Froch, George Groves, James DeGeale, Lucien Bute) who he could have fought to stay busy. He chose to permanently move up to 175. He fought the best light heavyweight up there and another quality guy in Sullivan Barrera so I think he should be commended. But if making weight wasn't an issue he could have stuck around 168 and forced the issue. He chose not to.

3. GGG became the mandatory for the belt held by Miguel Cotto and then Canelo Alvarez when he beat Marco Antonio Rubio on August 12, 2014. No serious person would move up to fight a super tough opponent for chump change when they were the mandatory challenger for a potentially life changing fight against the likes of Cotto and Canelo.

With all that being said, I think Ward basically used GGG's burgeoning popularity to keep him relevant while hoping that talking ***** about him would actually lead to a fight. Because if the fight had happened Andre Ward probably would have beaten GGG. While GGG is an underrated boxer Ward is a master boxer. GGG's next best chance would be with his power but if Ward could handle Kovalev's power he should be more than capable of handling GGG's power.

[boliodogs]

Team GGG doesn't particularly care about legacy or what the public or media thinks. Here's what Abel had to say about the situation back in '14 after Virgil called them out for saying they'd be willing to fight at 168 but no mention of Ward:
"First of all, the fans and the media can demand it but if it doesn’t make financial sense at the moment or in the future, it’s not gonna be made." He later said about Ward and other fighters calling GGG out "At this point we don't need them, they need us."

Hell, team GGG has even rejected career high paydays as the B side. People had this perception of GGG as a take on all comers type of fighter who simply lacked opponents willing to face him, but as soon as those opponents started lining up, we learned that's not who he is. He's the type of guy who weighs his options carefully before making a move. As an A side he's minimized the risks he takes and even as a B side he's willing to risk pricing himself out of huge paydays.

Hell what career high payday did GGG ever reject from Ward??? How much money, what weight, what location? I say you are making stuff up. Ward was never popular or a big money maker or the A side. Come on man, what was this great offer GGG turned down to fight Ward because I have never seen or heard of any offer from Ward and I don't think there ever was one. Just Ward using GGG's name in the media to build himself up with no intention of fighting him at 168. A real standard offer from Ward's team to GGG's team to fight Ward for a dollar amount. a date and a fight location. That's what I ask for but never get from the GGG haters as you clearly are.

[ruedboy]

Probably because Golovkin was too smart.
Seriously who could beat "Anything Goes - Short of Bringing A Knife Into the Ring" Ward (especially in the US)

[boliodogs]

Lil g ducked him, multiple times after multiple offers, and had multiple excuses.

Then just name one offer from team Ward to team GGG to fight Ward complete with a date, a weight, a fight location and the amount GGG was supposed to receive. All the stuff that goes with any real offer to fight. I think you are lying but prove me wrong and show me a real offer Ward ever made to GGG to fight with the details that come with any genuine fight offer. GGG can't make excuses or duck an offer that never existed so please tell me about even one real offer Ward made to GGG to fight because I say there never was one. Just media talk like the Crawford vs Spence situation.

[aboutfkntime]

If memory serves me right when GGG wanted the fight Ward was on the sidelines with promotional issues. When Ward came back GGG was chasing the Canelo fight and Ward I don’t believe ever caught below 170 after coming back. It’s easy to point fingers but the truth is the timing was never right plus they were in different divisions.

what a wanker

[aboutfkntime]

To my knowledge there were never any offers just a media callout. Can you name even one single offer GGG recieved to fight Ward with a date, a fight location, the dollar amount GGG was supposed to receive. All the stuff that goes with any real offer to fight?I have yet to see anyone come up with any offer team Ward ever put on the table for GGG because there never was one.

you clowns are pieces of shlt

" to my knowledge "

" so far as I can remember "

now what would make a supposed adult behave like that ?

[aboutfkntime]

Team GGG doesn't particularly care about legacy or what the public or media thinks. Here's what Abel had to say about the situation back in '14 after Virgil called them out for saying they'd be willing to fight at 168 but no mention of Ward:
"First of all, the fans and the media can demand it but if it doesn’t make financial sense at the moment or in the future, it’s not gonna be made." He later said about Ward and other fighters calling GGG out "At this point we don't need them, they need us."

Hell, team GGG has even rejected career high paydays as the B side. People had this perception of GGG as a take on all comers type of fighter who simply lacked opponents willing to face him, but as soon as those opponents started lining up, we learned that's not who he is. He's the type of guy who weighs his options carefully before making a move. As an A side he's minimized the risks he takes and even as a B side he's willing to risk pricing himself out of huge paydays.

lil'G is a pooosy... and his little excuse-making fcukboys are bltches

they know exactly what happened