Andre Ward is insanely overrated

[aboutfkntime]

Already explained all of that in detail..some of it in the very links you put out.

you explained nothing kid...

you made an ignorant statement, but you refuse to back that statement up

But you can't even name one great white fighter and where they would rank in the ATG list...pretty sad that you outed yourself man...as if any of us really though different though...sigh...

what does that have to do with the topic we have been discussing?

you subject-changing... race-card pulling... shlt-talking... little ***wit?

you think I am black... ?

why do casual-fans, and idiots, always change the subject to race when they get their ass kicked in a debate?

your boxing knowledge has been found SEVERELY lacking son

just saying...


thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....

I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918

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thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but he will not say which one LMAO

I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10

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thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....

Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16

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thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

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thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins

Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20

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creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....

Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903

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thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....

never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905

[calemanregreso]

he had some very interesting low blows

[Boxing_1013]

you think I am black... ?

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Unfortunately I can just tell that you are a racist man...sad...but just own it..do you

What do you make of Ward trying to fight JCC Jr back in the day btw? What a cherry pick that would have been....typical Ward...

[daggum]

imagine if you fell into a coma for ten years and woke up and you heard people on boxingscene talking about how great ward was. then imagine you saw him fight

[daggum]

Unfortunately I can just tell that you are a racist man...sad...but just own it..do you

What do you make of Ward trying to fight JCC Jr back in the day btw? What a cherry pick that would have been....typical Ward...

what about ward vs pavlik? what about ward vs sartison. "promotional issues" haha. those are ward issues. he wanted that easy life and hbo said no. he could have just fought the guys hbo wanted but he took his promoter to court. he lost

[Boxing_1013]

imagine if you fell into a coma for ten years and woke up and you heard people on boxingscene talking about how great ward was. then imagine you saw him fight

what about ward vs pavlik? what about ward vs sartison. "promotional issues" haha. those are ward issues. he wanted that easy life and hbo said no. he could have just fought the guys hbo wanted but he took his promoter to court. he lost

Lol...I agree with you wholeheartedly...

[aboutfkntime]

Unfortunately I can just tell that you are a racist man...sad...but just own it..do you

What do you make of Ward trying to fight JCC Jr back in the day btw? What a cherry pick that would have been....typical Ward...

nah, you are just desperately pulling the race-card... to cover up what a shltty poster you are

EVERYBODY knows man

you post something on the internet, it will be there for life

there is no hiding this dumb shlt...


thinks that Golovkin has a better resume than Canelo.....

I just made a thread about specifically why people rate Canelo's resume as better than GGG's...and I laid out my case as to why I rate GGG's better.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=820918

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thinks that one of the " killers " on Golovkin's resume could have beaten Canelo.... but he will not say which one LMAO

I don't think Canelo would have gotten all of his guys out by KO and maybe would not have 'won' all of them.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=10

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thinks that Murray Lemieux Monroe and Vanes, are better wins for Golovkin..... than Lara Cotto Trout and Mosley, are for Canelo.....

Canelo's top wins would be Lara..Jacobs and Cotto imo...GGG's would be Jacobs, Murray and Lemieux...I don't see a ton of separation there..... winning 7-5 vs a great Lara...and going 12 with a shot fat Cotto...is not imo better than 8 Round destruction of Lemieux...and 11 round destruction of Murray..... Vanes was inactive and moving up in weight...but he wasn't shot like SSM more or less was..... I don't think going 12 with Mosley when Canelo did, or 12 with Trout, are better wins than GGG running through Monroe and Geale.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...820918&page=16

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thinks that Andre Ward is no better than Bika Barrera and Miranda

I just never really saw the skills from him..... if he was born in a different country I don't think he would have been looked at much differently than Bika Barrera or Miranda etc.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...2#post19903762

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thinks that Golovkin has 5-6 'great' wins..... but cannot even name 1 of those 'great' wins

Yeah he has about 10+ good wins imo...and 5-6 'great' wins if you want to term it that...great fighter, great career...an ATG at MW...that's pretty clear I think..... If a great win is a dominant win over another prime great fighter...I would say GGG has quite a few tbh.....
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...821123&page=20

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creates a thread misquoting Steve Weisfeld.....

Boxing1013 attempted to remove defence, ring generalship, and effective aggression, as official scoring criteria..... to justify why he thinks Golovkin beat Canelo in their rematch..... but, had NO IDEA that Steve Weisfeld was AN OFFICIAL JUDGE at the Canelo/Golovkin rematch..... and Weisfeld scored that fight for Canelo looool
https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=818903

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thinks that Golovkin has faced more quality opposition than almost any other fighter in history.....

never had a slip up against quality opposition, and he faced probably more of them than almost any other fighter in history...

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/s...d.php?t=824905

[Boxing_1013]

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I don't care if Ward tried to cherry pick JCC Jr...Ward is different

Ok if you say so

[Boxing_1013]

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The meeting where Golovkin said "Yes" and Ward said "No" because he had a shoulder injury?

From what I've found it seems it was likely early 2013.
Here GGG after Proksa saying yes to fight Ward: http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2012/09...ht-andre-ward/(Remove the space)
Ward has shoulder injury: http://www.thesweetscience.com/news/...vlik-fight-off

Here's an article after Rosado-GGG saying Golovkin wants to fight Ward as soon as his shoulder is healed: http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2013/01...-ward-in-2013/(remove the space)

In 2013 although Ward did do some talking about Golovkin, he viewed him as an opponent "down the road" and was more focused on rematches with Froch or Kessler, fights that really had no chance of happening outside of each guys respective hometowns, Ward fights Rodriguez.

By 2014 we have this: http://www.boxingnews 24.com/2014/10...ng-andre-ward/(remove the space)

Cotto and Canelo have come onto the scene as possible opponents for Golovkin, if not Froch, Ward is irrelevant as hell and from whatever part of the world Ward is at, he's managing to have his lawyer send letters to HBO saying he wants to fight Golovkin, Ward didn't fight at all in 2014 btw.

Basically if this is true, Golovkin was willing to fight Ward when he was at the top of the mountain. But now is supposedly ducking him.

After reading all of that...an honest man would tip his cap and admit he was wrong...what will you do lol

[Blond Beast]

You cant have this opinion without being called a hater or a kkkovalev lil g fan. but i concur, i honestly think hes the most overrated boxer in the past decade.

He was All Terrain Fighter, but he sure didn’t travel much. I do think he’s overrated. I think being overrated is a compliment in the sense a lot of people must like ur personality or style or heart or whatever. But that’s the Rub for me, I don’t see how his personality, style, lack of fights, achieved him that. He should have lost the first Kovalev fight. He got so much credit for being the underdog after he got dropped. Became a feel good story. I don’t know how I feel about their second fight.