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  • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
    Don't get overexcited bro. Its being rumored for November 2nd. That means Canelo will be fighting a damaged Kovalev. So if he does KO Kovalev, please don't be a44hole and start saying Canelo hits harder than Yarde, Canelo smells blood, etc etc. Yeah he smells blood at the negotiating table. At the strategy table. He sees a still wounded Kovalev, wounded by YARDE not by Canelo, and he's going after it like a shark.

    Just when the fight happens, please don't lie about it. Don't leave out the fact that Canelo is fighting a damaged Kovalev, not the one that fought Yarde tonight. The one that fought Yarde tonight would have been a problem for Canelo. Yarde is a lot bigger, stronger, and more powerful than Canelo, although Canelo obviously has better skills. The Kovalev that went 12 with Yarde I think would have gone 12 vs Canelo and had a good chance to outpoint him. Yarde hits harder than Canelo, trust me. Yarde was also more aggressive than Canelo probably would have been able to be vs THAT Kovalev. Now that Kovalev will still be injured when Canelo fights him, THAT Kovalev, Canelo may be able to be very aggressive against. But the Kovalev that Yarde fought would have been a great fight.

    Damn, I'm so pissed Canelo vs Kovalev didnt happen September 14th. This Kovalev vs Canelo would have been FOTY.

    Brother I’m not the one laying out the excuses or getting overexcited
    But from what I read you are
    I ain’t no fughin Canelo fan and believe he chose Kovi because he is the weakest link in the light heavyweight division
    As a boxing fan I would much rather see Canelo against a Beterbiev or Bivol any fughin day

    Imo , Kovi is fughin done
    But you guys making Yarde sound like some fughin masterful boxer is fughin wrong
    Yarde has a total of under 30 fights in his WHOLE career
    That professional and amateur
    But yeah let’s compare Yarde to Canelo

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    • Originally posted by Boxing1013 View Post
      Canelo pfp is very possibly the best body shot puncher in the game...but at 175 I have to say I don't think he would hit harder than Yarde...and Yarde actually went to the body quite well today, especially in the 8th round...perhaps if someone like Yarde can get to Kov, then a pfp guy like Canelo can do it easier.

      Alternatively it is possible that Yarde with his size and athleticism edge was able to dig to the body better than Canelo would...and along with that, Kov I felt took almost all of Yarde's shots well today.

      To be fair I am not sure exactly what happened to him in the 8th round...maybe the body shots exacerbated some fatigue, or maybe it was juts fatigue or just body shots...or maybe it was a head shot that had him bothered...hard for me to say when watching it live.

      I just think it is a bit optimistic to look at certain Kov fights and think that Canelo can do all the same things that Kov's opponents have done well against him...Canelo will present his own problems...but he won't have the size of Alvarez or Yarde..and that is a big factor imo.

      Physically he is probably closer to Ward's size than the other two guys mentioned...and maybe his plan is to do what Ward did vs Kov...but imo that gameplan led to a clear L in the first fight as for the first 6 rounds Ward was surviving trying to deal with the power and jab.

      And even the 2nd fight when Ward knew what he had to do...he still was eating some heavy shots to get inside...without getting into whether some shots were low or not, and whether it was a clean win...imo Ward was only able to effective going to the body after 12 rounds of experience and even then he had to eat some big shots.

      Canelo will present his own problems...and if he can beat Kov at 175 with no restrictions or even fight him competitively like I felt Yarde did tonight...I would give him a lot of props.
      Canelo will only have to pose half the problems of Yarde, and have half the power, because he will only be facing half the version of Kovalev. The fight is rumored for November 2nd. That's 9 or 10 weeks from now. Kovalev just had an extended 11 round war with a cruiserweight huge puncher, someone who looked like a Beterbiev type puncher in there today, to my surprise. Someone who may have been enhanced with PEDs with the fight being in Russia, and how unnatural Yarde's body appeared to me and how his chin performed.

      Canelo can fight a still recovering, damaged Kovalev. When Cormier fought Miocic 5 months after Miocic's fight with Ngannou, Cormier KO'd him with 1 punch. When they rematched after Miocic had a year off, Miocic took 100 big punches and didn't go down.

      His chin was still damaged 5 months after a hard fight. Kovalev probably took more damage in this fight than Miocic did in that fight, and instead of 5 months, he's getting 2 months. This fight is a joke. The sport pays lip service to fighter safety but that's all it is. Canelo is allowed to delay fights and stall everyone's careers for zero reason, but delaying it a couple months so Kovalev doesn't put his life at 10 times more risk than normal, that's not something we're even supposed to talk about or consider. This sport is a joke. I'll hope for the best Kovalev, and for his safety, but I'll be expecting more hashtag boxing bull****.

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      • Man that was a war! Kovalev came so close to getting stopped in the 8th! Yarde definitely punched himself out in that round and failing to get the stoppage lead to his energy draining. Kovalev weathered the storm like a veteran and edged him with conditioning and mental toughness. Now if he can just control himself and not grope any more women on planes he will earn a mega payday with Canelo. Kind of a quick turnaround to fight at the end of the year after such a war. Especially since Canelo has been inactive since May. Canelo is gonna be too quick and wont fatigue like Yarde did. He will also stick to a body attack. Yarde did good in spurts but his inexperience was very apparent because he was very inconsistent. He is a good fighter though cuz he got thrown in the deep end after basically fighting a bunch of nobodies. Canelo is gonna beat Kovalev into retirement though. Put the old dog down.

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        • Originally posted by MulaKO View Post
          Brother I’m not the one laying out the excuses or getting overexcited
          But from what I read you are
          I ain’t no fughin Canelo fan and believe he chose Kovi because he is the weakest link in the light heavyweight division
          As a boxing fan I would much rather see Canelo against a Beterbiev or Bivol any fughin day

          Imo , Kovi is fughin done
          But you guys making Yarde sound like some fughin masterful boxer is fughin wrong
          Yarde has a total of under 30 fights in his WHOLE career
          That professional and amateur
          But yeah let’s compare Yarde to Canelo
          Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from. With that said, the point is it's convenient to your opinion that Canelo is fighting Kovalev only 2 months from now. That's going to make him look done whether he was in this fight or not, and then you'll feel like you were right all along. I think Kovalev still had enough tonight to maybe beat Canelo, that's why it's so annoying and messed up that I don't think we're going to see this Kovalev against Canelo.

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          • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
            Sorry I misunderstood where you were coming from. With that said, the point is it's convenient to your opinion that Canelo is fighting Kovalev only 2 months from now. That's going to make him look done whether he was in this fight or not, and then you'll feel like you were right all along. I think Kovalev still had enough tonight to maybe beat Canelo, that's why it's so annoying and messed up that I don't think we're going to see this Kovalev against Canelo.
            Personally , I think Kovi would get defeated even before this fight
            Canelo imo beats him even if Kovi comes into the fight feeling great

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            • Originally posted by Skip Bayless View Post
              that ko punch was strange has ****, ive had to watch it over 100 times and still don't understand how a jab had that much power. guess he was already gassed and didn't see it coming but still very weird. clearly not a dive just find it strange that was the punch to ko him, he had eaten up better punches all night.
              There's always been speculation that Kovalev has extremely dense bones and big fists or something. He broke Agnew's ribs with a jab. That's why Kovalev got so much hype in his prime, he was just stick his hand out like a ballerina and people were falling like they got hit with a crisp fast power punch, when it almost looked like nothing. That was what was so impressive about him, he was clearly a unique specimen. But, that hasnt been happening much since he turned 33.

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              • Originally posted by Verus View Post
                Some people are talking like the Kovalev fight will be a walk in the park for Canelo, but this is a huge challenge for him. Kovalev is one of the best light heavyweights of the last 10 years. He is literally a killer in the ring with experience to match Canelo. You won't see Andrade, Golovkin, Charlo or Jacobs, all of whom tower over Canelo, challenge themselves in the same way. If Canelo does beat Kovalev -- and that is a big if-- it will be a historically significant fight. I hope that maybe then the haters will cut Canelo some slack.
                GGG is old. Andrade is way physically smaller than Canelo. Jacobs is moving to 168, and wouldn't make 1/10 as much money to fight Kovalev as Canelo will. Charlo likewise wouldnt make the money or even have the offer. There's very little upside for Kovalev to fight Charlo. Kovalev is an option to Canelo because Canelo can entice him with big money.

                Also, those guys wouldnt be able to offer the money to get Kovalev to fight while still damaged only 2 months after a war. Canelo is basically paying Kovalev off to come in the ring at 50% 2 months from now and collect a paycheck, and Kovalev isnt in a position to turn down that type of money. It's *****ed up. I hope he doesn't suffer permanent injury or worse in the fight. Chins can take 6-8 months to recover from a war like that, Canelo is giving Kovalev no option apparently but to fight Nov 2nd.

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                • Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                  Canelo will only have to pose half the problems of Yarde, and have half the power, because he will only be facing half the version of Kovalev. The fight is rumored for November 2nd. That's 9 or 10 weeks from now. Kovalev just had an extended 11 round war with a cruiserweight huge puncher, someone who looked like a Beterbiev type puncher in there today, to my surprise. Someone who may have been enhanced with PEDs with the fight being in Russia, and how unnatural Yarde's body appeared to me and how his chin performed.

                  Canelo can fight a still recovering, damaged Kovalev. When Cormier fought Miocic 5 months after Miocic's fight with Ngannou, Cormier KO'd him with 1 punch. When they rematched after Miocic had a year off, Miocic took 100 big punches and didn't go down.

                  His chin was still damaged 5 months after a hard fight. Kovalev probably took more damage in this fight than Miocic did in that fight, and instead of 5 months, he's getting 2 months. This fight is a joke. The sport pays lip service to fighter safety but that's all it is. Canelo is allowed to delay fights and stall everyone's careers for zero reason, but delaying it a couple months so Kovalev doesn't put his life at 10 times more risk than normal, that's not something we're even supposed to talk about or consider. This sport is a joke. I'll hope for the best Kovalev, and for his safety, but I'll be expecting more hashtag boxing bull****.
                  - -What grade you in this year?

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                  • Originally posted by Verus View Post
                    Not many middleweights have moved up and dethroned a light heavyweight champ. Bernard Hopkins comes to mind. There might be one or two others. So a Kovalev vs Canelo fight will be historic if Canelo wins.
                    There aren't many middleweights with big fanbases who are interested in seeing them pick old champs two weight divisions up. Maybe Daniel Geale would have wanted to test himself against Sergey Kovalev 5 years ago at 175, or Bernard Hopkins, but what would have been in it for Kovalev or Hopkins?

                    See what I mean? as usual the cash cow gets his pick of the litter and that allows him to pick the prime meat, the prime opportunities, at every weight class, off the bone, before anyone else can. And in the era of undetectable PEDs, it's easier than ever to make up the size difference. Still no perfect cure for the age difference, from Kovalev's standpoint, though. Especially not when he's been in VADA testing the last 6 weeks while Canelo hasnt.

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                    • Originally posted by kushking View Post
                      You dumb twat only canelo & Donaire are on real vada aka vada 365 which is why they(vada) tweet it regularly.

                      You truly are a ****** hating ass clown
                      Michael Montero talked to VADA directly, Canelo's year of VADA testing ran out a month or two ago and he never re-enrolled. Please dont hate on the messenger, Im just relaying the info to you. Canelo is a proven cheat.

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