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  • Motorcity Cobra
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    #11
    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
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    All of those situations are very different from allowing other champions to fight other contenders in an eliminator to become the mandatory. It'd be different if Ugas was already diamond champion, but he's not a big name and it'd be hard to justify giving him a diamond title fight.
    Show me in my post where I said the situations I named are exactly like the Bud/Spence situation. Why do you keep saying all these situations are different as if I'm saying they're the same as Bud/Spence? My point is the WBC is willing to work with other champs to make fights happen.

    I don't know if you're intentionally missing the point or you're just not that quick on the uptake.

    Especially when you want to break out a rule book when....

    THEY MADE UP A FRANCHISE CHAMP RULE!!!

    There is no rhyme or reason to the way they do things and they've proven they're willing to make **** up as they go along

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      #12
      Originally posted by Phenom
      I don't think they will want the fight on a mandatory split maybe Arum should do like he did with Ramirez and loan bud to PBC for 1 fight
      This right here. This is why this situation would never happen. This is all business.

      Arum has to deliver ESPN a PPV. Fury & Crawford are his only hopes. And that's why he won't loan Crawford to PBC like he did with Ramirez even though their situations are the same. The only difference is Crawford has PPV worthy fighters in his weight class while Ramirez doesn't.

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      • brettWall
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        #13
        The only guarantee is for Spence to stop holding up the fight. He admitted it.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
          Arum petitions the WBC to make Crawford vs. Ugas the eliminator and chance to become mandatory for the winner of Spence vs. Porter. The WBC has shown their willingness to have champs of other sanctioning orgs fight in their eliminators & for vacant belts. Kovalev vs. Pascal. Lomachenko vs. Campbell. And GGG vs. Rubio are 3 recent examples.

          Fighting an eliminator gives a solid timeline for the fight. As long as he fights the eliminator he doesn't have to wait around 600 days. And as long as he doesn't take step aside money (GGG & Eldier Alvarez) That's how you guarantee the fight happens.

          The quickest way to get Crawford to fight Spence is for Bob Arum to overpay non-elite PBC Welterweights so they fight his guys. Overpay Lipinets or Ugas so that they give up their chances at other Welterweight belts so that they go after Crawford instead. Hell gives a PBC has been like Andre Berto or Josesito Lopez a chance at Egidijus Kavaliauskas and his mandatory position as well to further sweeten the pot for PBC to allow those other fights. Sooner or later there will be no one else on Spence's side of the street worth fighting.

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          • DARTH SILKWORMS
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            #15
            Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
            Show me in my post where I said the situations I named are exactly like the Bud/Spence situation.
            It's not just that the situations aren't exactly alike, it's that they're completely different.

            What you're suggesting is that the WBC would allow Crawford to be a contender and fight another contender in an eliminator to try to become the mandatory.

            The WBC has never done this. GGG fighting the interim world champion is completely different. Kovalev fighting the diamond champion is completely different. Loma fighting the diamond champion is completely different.

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              #16
              Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS

              The WBC has never done this. GGG fighting the interim world champion is completely different. Kovalev fighting the diamond champion is completely different. Loma fighting the diamond champion is completely different.
              Before they made Canelo franchise champ had they ever done that?

              You still don't get it no matter how many times I explain to you what I'm saying. You keep comparing other situations to Bid/Spence situations when I'm telling you that is not the point. The point is the WBC have shown a willingness to work with other champs. You're mind is stuck on finding the same situations. You act as if the WBC is a stickler for their rules when they are probably the most flexible out of all the sanctioning bodies. They make **** up as they go along
              Last edited by Motorcity Cobra; 08-20-2019, 10:21 PM.

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                #17
                Arum isn’t putting Crawford anywhere near Ugas. Not that Crawford is afraid or would even lose that fight. There isn’t enough upside in that fight.

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                • DARTH SILKWORMS
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                  Before they made Canelo franchise champ had they ever done that?
                  There is a first time for everything, but bending over backwards for Canelo and bending over backwards for Crawford are two different things. Another bad comparison.


                  The point is the WBC have shown a willingness to work with other champs.
                  The WBC has shown a willingness to have other champs face their champs. Face their world champs, their diamond champs and their interim champs.

                  What you're suggesting though makes no sense for Crawford and makes no sense for the WBC. I understand what you're going for. The key would be the diamond title. But that wouldn't happen with Ugas.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by DARTH SILKWORMS
                    There is a first time for everything, but bending over backwards for Canelo and bending over backwards for Crawford are two different things. Another bad comparison.




                    The WBC has shown a willingness to have other champs face their champs. Face their world champs, their diamond champs and their interim champs.

                    What you're suggesting though makes no sense for Crawford and makes no sense for the WBC. I understand what you're going for. The key would be the diamond title. But that wouldn't happen with Ugas.
                    I don't know if you're trolling or if you're just lonely and want someone to talk to but I'm done with the conversation because everybody else in the thread understands what I'm saying except you.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Pan-Africanist
                      Arum isn’t putting Crawford anywhere near Ugas. Not that Crawford is afraid or would even lose that fight. There isn’t enough upside in that fight.
                      There's more upside in fighting Kavasjifsf$gk?

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