This is how you guarantee the Bud v. Spence fight.

[Boksfan]

If that happens PBC won't recognise WBC as a world champion belt any more and Spence will have to vacate it.

[Ray*]

All that BS you wrote doesn't guarantee anything. As long as Arum won't do business with Haymon there will be no Crawford vs Spence fight. If Arum changes his mind the fight might happen IF they can agree on money and terms.

They are working together for Fury/Wilder 2, hopefully that would make it easier to do the Spence/Bud fight.

[Ray*]

If that happens PBC won't recognise WBC as a world champion belt any more and Spence will have to vacate it.

Hopefully they would take their politics that far. We the fans just need to unite and make it difficult for these sort of things to happen. How many years have we been giving Arum sticks for stopping fights, he use to have his defenders then, just like Haymon/PBC have theirs now. The question should be are you fans of the networks or fans of wanting to see those fights.

[Outwest Exp 355]

So it's a business move.

A lot of Bud's business moves are being excused while Spence business moves are being criticized. Even though Spence business moves are leading to tougher fights.

I agree with that and you and I live in the real world. People criticize Wilder while giving Fury a pass. If you like a fighter you’re gonna go out of your way to support his decisions and vice versa if you dislike a fighter. It’s just human nature.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Arum petitions the WBC to make Crawford vs. Ugas the eliminator and chance to become mandatory for the winner of Spence vs. Porter. The WBC has shown their willingness to have champs of other sanctioning orgs fight in their eliminators & for vacant belts. Kovalev vs. Pascal. Lomachenko vs. Campbell. And GGG vs. Rubio are 3 recent examples.

Fighting an eliminator gives a solid timeline for the fight. As long as he fights the eliminator he doesn't have to wait around 600 days. And as long as he doesn't take step aside money (GGG & Eldier Alvarez) That's how you guarantee the fight happens.

I don’t think this happens.

But I like this idea, at least then they would be prompted into entering negotiations.

[Boksfan]

Hopefully they would take their politics that far. We the fans just need to unite and make it difficult for these sort of things to happen. How many years have we been giving Arum sticks for stopping fights, he use to have his defenders then, just like Haymon/PBC have theirs now. The question should be are you fans of the networks or fans of wanting to see those fights.

Arum and Haymon are equally bad in marinating business.

[SplitSecond]

I think Arums best chances is Paying Pacquiao 20+ mil to fight Crawford so he can take that fight/belt away from the PBC welter’s. This obviously only works if Pacquiao’s contract with PBC is up like I’ve seen posted a few times.

[Motorcity Cobra]

70/30 Champ / Challenger

So how did Kovalev end up with 50/50 against Stevenson?

[Motorcity Cobra]

In every example you listed, the champion of the other organization beat the WBC interim or diamond champion before being allowed to fight for the full WBC world title. They didn't just fight a contender to become a traditional mandatory with a 70/30 split. They went after a guy already holding a WBC interim or diamond title to try to force a unification.

How did Canelo become Franchise Champ? What champ did he beat? If he loses his next fight does the winner become Franchise Champ?

[GhostofDempsey]

The easiest way to make this fight is to offer the winner a shot at Pacquiao. Lets see how badly either of them wants the Pac fight if they have to go through one another to get it. Someone's "0" has got to go!