Boxing Should Be Less Rounds For Safety & For Simplicity

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  • Eff Pandas
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    #21
    Originally posted by MEXICAN STYLE
    Maybe they should set a maximum on head punches allowed & force the fighters to target the body instead by not setting a limit.
    I think that would be hard to police lol.

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      #22
      Originally posted by _Rexy_
      Lots of guys in boxing have died from weight cutting IMO. But that's been a long standing theory of mine for a while. Cutting weight drains the protective barrier between your brain and your skull.

      I think the amount of rounds are good, just need to find a way to stop these guys from draining themselves to unhealthy levels to attain an advantage.
      Who?

      I mean in theory you could argue it played a part in a death in boxing I'm positive. I 100% agree its a contributing factor. I don't at all believe its the #1 cause of severe injuries & deaths in boxing.

      ONE Championship had a guy die WHILE CUTTING WEIGHT. Not during a fight. There wasn't a IMO to be had with his death.

      Boxers are generally more reasonable than MMA guys are with cutting weight. A lot of MMA guys wrestled in HS & College & as a cat from a wrestling city coming up I can tell you the low level mfers with that weight cutting are serious mfers. I can't imagine what the high level guys are doing to make weight. And I don't doubt there are some boxing cats taking more risks then others with it, but the cherry on top of their severe injury or death was a sustained attack to their brain for longer then they need to be taking shots to the brain.

      So if the weight cutting was the real problem I suspect we'd be seeing more deaths in the cage.
      Last edited by Eff Pandas; 08-19-2019, 09:41 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        Who?

        I mean in theory you could argue it played a part in a death in boxing I'm positive. I 100% agree its a contributing factor. I don't at all believe its the #1 cause of severe injuries & deaths in boxing.

        ONE Championship had a guy die WHILE CUTTING WEIGHT. Not during a fight. There wasn't a IMO to be had with his death.

        Boxers are generally more reasonable than MMA guys are with cutting weight. A lot of MMA guys wrestled in HS & College & as a cat from a wrestling city coming up I can tell you the low level mfers with that weight cutting are serious mfers. I can't imagine what the high level guys are doing to make weight. And I don't doubt there are some boxing cats taking more risks then others with it, but the cherry on top of their severe injury or death was a sustained attack to their brain for longer then they need to be taking shots to the brain.
        Didn't know about the MMA cat as I don't follow MMA, I was arguing that any of the deaths like Max have weight cutting as likely the top 3 factors.

        And yeah, wrestlers are crazy with the weight cutting.

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          #24
          Originally posted by MEXICAN STYLE
          Maybe they should set a maximum on head punches allowed & force the fighters to target the body instead by not setting a limit.
          what, like a shot clock? once the compubox hits a certain amount of head shots a buzzer goes, and they either have to ride their bike for the rest of the round, or target the body?


          naw, im good lol

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          • xxlefthookxx
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            #25
            Fewer weight divisions

            Originally posted by Eff Pandas
            I definitely see weight cutting being a contributing factor to severe injuries and deaths in the ring. By no means do I believe they are the main cause. I've been a proponent for weight cutting changes for awhile.

            ONE Championships in MMA got the best weight cutting rules in combat sports by a mile. But they only implemented them after someone died due to cutting. I think someone is gonna need to die in boxing or the UFC due to weight cutting specifically before any moves get made with all that sh^t unfortunately.
            Reducing the # of divisions would force fighters to more likely move up in weight, making it easier to make weight. If you have to fight at either 135 or 147 and your 'best' weight is 140, you probably end up fighting at 147 with a little more muscle mass and better hydrated.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Eff Pandas
              I definitely see weight cutting being a contributing factor to severe injuries and deaths in the ring. By no means do I believe they are the main cause. I've been a proponent for weight cutting changes for awhile.

              ONE Championships in MMA got the best weight cutting rules in combat sports by a mile. But they only implemented them after someone died due to cutting. I think someone is gonna need to die in boxing or the UFC due to weight cutting specifically before any moves get made with all that sh^t unfortunately.
              I always thought weight cutting was the major factor in brain injuries and deaths in the ring. Cutting rounds does seem like a effective way to decrease this problem. I'm wondering though if deaths and serious injuries have decreased since boxing went from 15 to 12 rounds.

              I also wonder if smaller gloves could help. I think it's the sustained pounding that does the brain the most damage. Smaller gloves would mean faster ko's and less sustained shots to the head. I don't even recall the last time I heard of serious injury or death in UFC.

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                #27
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                Didn't know about the MMA cat as I don't follow MMA, I was arguing that any of the deaths like Max have weight cutting as likely the top 3 factors.
                Yea, but the #1 factor by a lot is too many punches to the brain. Thats the thing causing these deaths & severe injuries.

                Here's a article on the ONE Championships death.
                Yang Jian Bing was set to compete at ONE Championship 35 against Geje Eustaquio in a flyweight contest before that bout was cancelled on Thursday. ONE Championship noted via release following the weigh-ins that bout had been cancelled "due to Yang's severe dehydration from attempting to make weight. Yang Jian Bing has suffered from dehydration and suspected heat stroke. He has been transported to the hospital where he is undergoing intensive rehydration treatment."

                The news took a turn for the worse on Friday when Bing, 21, ultimately died from the complications of his weight cut.

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                  #28
                  Same day weigh ins, rehydration limits24/7/365 random PED testing, and better health education. Do those first

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                    #29
                    Moving from 15 to 12 rounds was a disaster from the start. Should be 11 or 13 for obvious reasons.

                    And if it was Adonis Stevenson who got you worked up please hang yourself

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BoxingTech718
                      Same day weigh ins, rehydration limits24/7/365 random PED testing, and better health education. Do those first
                      The problem is 98% of boxers make no money and cant afford USADA at all times.

                      Same day weigh ins is a good step in the right direction

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