Andy Ruiz will win if it goes to court

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  • LacedUp
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    #91
    Originally posted by .!WAR RUIZ!.
    post the official copy of the contract.

    ILL WAIT.
    I'll wait for when you post the bit about it having to be in the UK

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    • Boxingraya
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      #92
      Originally posted by Curtis Harper
      The bold though
      I don't think we really know if that's exactly what Ruiz agreed to. Any amount agreed to though was before a 100 mill offer was made.

      Even if Hearn has a strong legal case, (he does) sharing the new money with Ruiz is the right thing to do. I can't believe you "fans" of boxing are so against fighters getting what they deserve.

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      • Curtis Harper
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        #93
        Originally posted by Boxingraya
        I don't think we really know if that's exactly what Ruiz agreed to. Any amount agreed to though was before a 100 mill offer was made.

        Even if Hearn has a strong legal case, (he does) sharing the new money with Ruiz is the right thing to do. I can't believe you "fans" of boxing are so against fighters getting what they deserve.
        Sorry but ''deserves'' are objective/subjective. That's why we have legally binding contracts.

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        • saintpat
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          #94
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          I was comparing your reasoning. You think Ruiz can get out of it because the value has changed, then people should be able to get out of mortgages if the value changes. Same logic. Same outcome. It won't happen. Fighters would be doing it all the time if that was the case, want to name some fighters that have?
          You can negotiate a new contract with new terms. I did with my mortgage and it was to my benefit and not the bank’s, but they did it anyway.

          Ruiz has some leverage. He can hold out and hurt AJ’s career and maybe splinter the belts up ... so Eddie has incentive to work out a deal that Andy will agree to.

          He may not. He may be willing to go to court. He may be posturing. But Andy says his side is negotiating with Matchroom and if that’s true then it means Eddie wants to make the fight rather than go to court.

          We’ll see how it plays out. But while a contract may be ironclad, it doesn’t mean the terms cannot be renegotiated. As said, I’ve done it myself.

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          • Boxingraya
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            #95
            Originally posted by Curtis Harper
            Sorry but ''deserves'' are objective/subjective. That's why we have legally binding contracts.
            It'a really not. Money owed based on revenue increasing is sorted out in courts all the time.

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              #96
              Originally posted by Boxingraya
              Americans are cautioned against going to Saudi Arabia. No US court will force him to fly there to honor that contract.
              US MILITARY personnel are cautioned against travelling to Saudi Arabia. We have travel advisory's to at least 40 nations so using that legal argument won't hold up in court.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
                A rematch clause is a contract.

                As i said earlier, the rematch clause has to have the purses in it or a fighter can get out of a rematch by not accepting the purse.


                FFS you're unbelievably dumb with zero common sense.
                Bro stop wasting your time with people who don't have the basics when it comes to contract law.

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                • Boxingraya
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by strykr619
                  US MILITARY personnel are cautioned against travelling to Saudi Arabia. We have travel advisory's to at least 40 nations so using that legal argument won't hold up in court.
                  "Exercise increased caution in Saudi Arabia due to terrorism and the threat of missile and drone attacks on civilian targets"


                  That was taken from the dept of state travel advisory website.

                  No court in the US is gonna send a tax paying American to Saudi Arabia to get short changhed and possibly killed. Are you fkn crazy?

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Boxingraya
                    "Exercise increased caution in Saudi Arabia due to terrorism and the threat of missile and drone attacks on civilian targets"


                    That was taken from the dept of state travel advisory website.

                    No court in the US is gonna send a tax paying American to Saudi Arabia to get short changhed and possibly killed. Are you fkn crazy?
                    Level 2 is nothing. The UK is level 2 FFS.


                    Prepare for your trip to the United Kingdom by reviewing the State Department Travel Advisory, entry and exit requirements, local laws, and U.S. embassy tips.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Gpabrooklyn
                      Hear we go with another idiot that's never seen a boxing contract a day in his life,no a rematch clause is not a separate piece of paper idiot,it's all one contract,most fighters don't even sign the contract to fight until the week of the fight,you hearn fans have no clue how the business side of boxing works like I said,you just believe what your told,I bet hearn gives Ruiz what he wants before it goes to court, just like he shut up about suing the wbc before he got black balled,nobody scared of matchroom or they lawyers
                      I deal with contracts all the time actually, and therres no such thing as a statement paper which has its own title of a extended clause in whatever contract. No document says " Rematch Clause " on it in itself its part of the contract which has stipulations with the rematch in the actual contract. Ha


                      The scheduled fight will take place, and you'll see what a waste of time you made and what fools you listened to.

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