Marquez KTFO'06 a tragic or a blessing?

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  • IceTrayDaGang
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Stop playing dumb. It was cowardly to turn the fight down. Period.

    His fighting jmm wasn’t bravery. It was the most he could make other than Floyd, that is why he took it.

    He made much less than $40 mil, no ppv in that fight and got ktfo. You are jumping past that fact.
    no, it was a smart business move. you even said the $40mil offer from floyd was bogus. why you tryna spin it now? LOLOLOL!!!

    actually no, at the time, bobby was still paying manny $20mil+ per fight. manny took on marquez to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, unfortunately it didnt work out as planned.

    i think you getting pac mixed with with crawford? lol.. at that time, bobby was still dishing out $20+mil per fight for manny! lol. pac got $20mil+ for algieri and this was wayyyyyyyyyy after KTFO06.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      You posts are the ****** posts. You don't need to explain anything. I understand you meant getting KOed was karma for turning down the Mayweather fight and that is just plain ******. Karma is ****** nonsense for superstitious people. Marquez just knocked him out and karma didn't have a damn thing to do with it. Why would karma give a fuc about Pac turning down a Mayweather fight???? We control our own lives and make our own destiny, not karma.
      Jmm couldn’t have khtfo if he took the offer from Floyd and fought him.

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        #33
        Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
        no, it was a smart business move. you even said the $40mil offer from floyd was bogus. why you tryna spin it now? LOLOLOL!!!

        actually no, at the time, bobby was still paying manny $20mil+ per fight. manny took on marquez to kill 2 birds with 1 stone, unfortunately it didnt work out as planned.

        i think you getting pac mixed with with crawford? lol.. at that time, bobby was still dishing out $20+mil per fight for manny! lol. pac got $20mil+ for algieri and this was wayyyyyyyyyy after KTFO06.
        You are going out of your way to make this a positive when it isn’t solely because you are a manny fan.

        If not fighting the best man in the sport while earning less $$ to get ktfo than you would’ve made for a floyd fight is good business to you so be it. That makes absolutely no sense. Again if it were anyone else you’d be critical.

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          #34
          Originally posted by boliodogs
          You posts are the ****** posts. You don't need to explain anything. I understand you meant getting KOed was karma for turning down the Mayweather fight and that is just plain ******. Karma is ****** nonsense for superstitious people. Marquez just knocked him out and karma didn't have a damn thing to do with it. Why would karma give a fuc about Pac turning down a Mayweather fight???? We control our own lives and make our own destiny, not karma.
          you have to excuse dunn... his grandma dropped him on his head plenty of time as a baby while moms and dads is out running the streets.

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            #35
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            You are going out of your way to make this a positive when it isn’t solely because you are a manny fan.

            If not fighting the best man in the sport while earning less $$ to get ktfo than you would’ve made for a floyd fight is good business to you so be it. That makes absolutely no sense. Again if it were anyone else you’d be critical.
            wtf are you crying about now???? it was ME who made this thread. it was ME who decided on this topic. what the hell is wrong with you? how am i going out of my way???? I MADE THIS THREAD ON THIS TOPIC.

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              #36
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              You are going out of your way to make this a positive when it isn’t solely because you are a manny fan.

              If not fighting the best man in the sport while earning less $$ to get ktfo than you would’ve made for a floyd fight is good business to you so be it. That makes absolutely no sense. Again if it were anyone else you’d be critical.
              again, you have to look at the whole picture. if manny declining the bogus $40mil flat fee means he's ducking then use your ******ed logic for floyd when he wouldnt fight manny unless random blood test is done when he has never demand this for any of his opponents prior to manny. see what i mean? lololol!!!!

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Jmm couldn’t have khtfo if he took the offer from Floyd and fought him.
                No, because manny would have fought marquez after Floyd regardless.

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                • hmc87
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                  the marquez ko of the pacman, was this a tragic or more of a blessing in disguise? looking back at it now, i believe marquez saved manny's career by sending him to bed early on the night of dec.8, 2012.

                  Had pac stay up all night that night i believe this would have ended his career early OR it would have took his career to a different route (a dead end street). where pac would have just kept going around in circles.

                  during this time, pac was looked at as indestructible, a machine, a work of art. all this was getting to manny and it was making his head grew even bigger than it already was. the ko gave manny a little bit of humbleness. it made him take a step back and really look at his career.

                  if it wasnt for the ko, i believe pac would have gone on to get ko'd in other fights against lesser name opponents, etc. because manny's head was getting so big that he was too much into himself. can yall imagine an asian floyd mayweather jr???!!! holy shiiet! suicide!!!

                  so the ko was more of a blessing in disguise because manny is still around, healthy and fighting against the top tier fighters in his division, where as for marquez, the man who ko'd manny, has been retired, body is breaking down on him, struggling as a promoter, etc.
                  Pac was far from indestructible in JMM 4. Hell Pac lost JMM 3, but money/Boo wouldnt give the right decision.

                  People are going to be upset about this, but I think Floyd would have KD NOT KO, but KD Manny in their fight if the KTFO didnt happen.

                  Manny fans wouldve never recovered from that.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hmc87
                    Pac was far from indestructible in JMM 4. Hell Pac lost JMM 3, but money/Boo wouldnt give the right decision.

                    People are going to be upset about this, but I think Floyd would have KD NOT KO, but KD Manny in their fight if the KTFO didnt happen.

                    Manny fans wouldve never recovered from that.
                    recover from floyd knocking manny down??? lol. marquez knocked manny out. im eating good and sleeping good at night, what about you?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                      the marquez ko of the pacman, was this a tragic or more of a blessing in disguise? looking back at it now, i believe marquez saved manny's career by sending him to bed early on the night of dec.8, 2012.

                      Had pac stay up all night that night i believe this would have ended his career early OR it would have took his career to a different route (a dead end street). where pac would have just kept going around in circles.

                      during this time, pac was looked at as indestructible, a machine, a work of art. all this was getting to manny and it was making his head grew even bigger than it already was. the ko gave manny a little bit of humbleness. it made him take a step back and really look at his career.

                      if it wasnt for the ko, i believe pac would have gone on to get ko'd in other fights against lesser name opponents, etc. because manny's head was getting so big that he was too much into himself. can yall imagine an asian floyd mayweather jr???!!! holy shiiet! suicide!!!

                      so the ko was more of a blessing in disguise because manny is still around, healthy and fighting against the top tier fighters in his division, where as for marquez, the man who ko'd manny, has been retired, body is breaking down on him, struggling as a promoter, etc.
                      - -In 2006 after turning down a career high purse vs Manny, BALCO Juan fled to indonesia to get mugged by Chris John.

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