Marquez KTFO'06 a tragic or a blessing?

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  • boliodogs
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    #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    It was a neither. It was karma because it forced him to finally agree to fight Floyd. Remember he took this fight instead of the $40 mil, no ppv offer.
    So are you saying it wasn't just Marquez landing a big right hand? It was really this karma god that made it happen because he wanted pac to fight Floyd. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

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      #12
      stepped on his foot then ****** him out. thank god for the ref.

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        #13
        Originally posted by boliodogs
        So are you saying it wasn't just Marquez landing a big right hand? It was really this karma god that made it happen because he wanted pac to fight Floyd. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
        I didn’t post that so there is no way you really thought this.

        This is a ****** post dude. Getting ktfo was karma for turning down the fight with Floyd. If you remember he had turned jmm down for a 4th fight multiple times saying “ I have nothing more to prove”. Then took it for the reason above.

        I shouldn’t have had to explain that to you.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          That isn’t relative to the discussion. His getting ktfo by jmm was embarrassing and didn’t have to happen.

          You are giving him credit for turning down a fight with the best boxer in the world for the most money he had ever been offered. If it was anyone else but manny you’d be critical.
          no, that wasnt embarrassing. marquez is an ATG in himself. all ATG's have fights like this. this is what define their legacy. it's what made them who they're today.

          yes, why shouldnt i give him credit for making more money at the end? what the hell??!! and you have to look at why he turned it down. it was because he knew he would make more. now if he was a dummy, he would have taken the fight when the $40 mil flat fee was offered to him. but pac, proved once again, that there's levels to this.

          example:

          master p turned down a $1mil offer early on in his career, and look where he's at today? you catch my drift?

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            #15
            Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
            no, that wasnt embarrassing. marquez is an ATG in himself. all ATG's have fights like this. this is what define their legacy. it's what made them who they're today.

            yes, why shouldnt i give him credit for making more money at the end? what the hell??!! and you have to look at why he turned it down. it was because he knew he would make more. now if he was a dummy, he would have taken the fight when the $40 mil flat fee was offered to him. but pac, proved once again, that there's levels to this.

            example:

            master p turned down a $1mil offer early on in his career, and look where he's at today? you catch my drift?
            Please stop. If it were anyone else you’d be critical of them turning down the most money they were ever offered for a fight.

            It’s manny so you are going out if you’re way to make the best of an embarrassing situation he caused himself by refusing the offer to fight Floyd.

            There was nothing good about the loss. It was a cowardly move coupled with a handpicked opponent that backfired on him.
            Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-12-2019, 02:33 PM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              I didn’t post that so there is no way you really thought this.

              This is a ****** post dude. Getting ktfo was karma for turning down the fight with Floyd. If you remember he had turned jmm down for a 4th fight multiple times saying “ I have nothing more to prove”. Then took it for the reason above.

              I shouldn’t have had to explain that to you.
              you blaming a man for not staying on the sideline? what you expect manny to do? pull a mikey garcia and sit out for years? maybe then, you'll give him some credit for wasting half of his prime years? just because TBE was being a diva doesnt mean manny has to follow suit.

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              • boliodogs
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                #17
                I would say it was a good day for Marquez and a bad day for Pac. It's a KO loss on his record that he never got a chance to avenge. He was doing well in that fight before the KO. Many fans think Marquez is a better fighter than Pac based on that fight. I don't think getting brutally KOed was a good thing or made Pac a better fighter. His best days as a fighter were well before that fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Please stop. If it were anyone else you’d be critical of them turning down the most money they were ever offered for a fight.

                  It’s manny so you are going out if you’re way to make the best of an embarrassing situation he caused himself by refusing the offer to fight Floyd.

                  There was nothing good about the loss. It was a cowardly move coupled with a handpicked opponent that backfired on him.
                  please stop what???!!! you're on my page telling me to stop??? wtf???!! like i said, look at the whole picture!!! why would i be mad at any fighter for turning down an offer when they can get more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????

                  you're trying to spin this as manny ducking but it's not gonna work. how can you blame a man for turning down an offer when he knows he can get more??? are you fvvvcking ******?!!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    Please stop. If it were anyone else you’d be critical of them turning down the most money they were ever offered for a fight.

                    It’s manny so you are going out if you’re way to make the best of an embarrassing situation he caused himself by refusing the offer to fight Floyd.

                    There was nothing good about the loss. It was a cowardly move coupled with a handpicked opponent that backfired on him.
                    so it was a coward move that manny turned down floyd's bogus offer (you even said it was bogus!!!!) to fight the only man that can make manny look normal???:rofl!!!

                    now if manny turned it down to go fight someone like berto then yes, that would be a coward move! but how is it a coward move when he turned it down to go and fight the only man that can ever make him look normal? !!!

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by .WesternChamp.
                      you blaming a man for not staying on the sideline? what you expect manny to do? pull a mikey garcia and sit out for years? maybe then, you'll give him some credit for wasting half of his prime years? just because TBE was being a diva doesnt mean manny has to follow suit.
                      If any other fighter refused the biggest payday they could ever make you would in fact call him a diva.

                      Manny was being a diva-he refused to fight jmm a 4th time them accepted only because he needed a fight after cowardly turning down Floyd.

                      Had he just manned up he likely doesn’t get ktfo. Had he agreed to the 4th fight from the jump rather than turn it down same thing.

                      In the end he refused to fight Floyd, refused to have advanced PED testing for the fight, and got ktfo. Nothing more to say.

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